Help for Translation

ericlaude · 21st April 2011, 01:50 PM

Hello,
I bought this shashka in Hungary, the blade includes several engravings, somebody can translate me these writings?
Thanks in advance.

TVV · 21st April 2011, 05:43 PM

Eric,

The writing is in Bulgarian. Съ Нами Богъ means God With Us, and on the other side the inscription За Заслуга means For Merit. The ЗОФ abbreviation stands for Златоустовскя Оружейная Фабрика or Zlatoust Weapon Factory in Russian.

Unfortunately, my first impression from the pictures is that the item is not genuine, but a modern replica, intended for reenactors.

Regards,
Teodor

ericlaude · 21st April 2011, 06:10 PM

Thank you Teodor,
I don't know if it a modern reproduction, I brought it to a women who said , it was her gran father sword.

Gavin Nugent · 21st April 2011, 06:55 PM

Eric,

Your images are far better than the Ebay images.

My initial thoughts from the original Ebay images was repro.
I do still feel this way about the thin fittings and seeing the silver solder joins on the ring and throat.
The blade inscriptions also seems very crude compared to what was produced by the Zlatoust artisans.

Sorry I can't offer anythin other than these observations.

PS, looking at the sticker residue on the throat I don't think this was a long standing family heirloom.

Gav

TVV · 21st April 2011, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericlaude

Thank you Teodor,
I don't know if it a modern reproduction, I brought it to a women who said , it was her gran father sword.

Eric, sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but all of Gav's observations on the fittings, the etching, etc are correct. On top of that, the form of the hilt is incorrect and finally, this particular pattern was never adopted by the Bulgarian army.

We have all made the same essential mistake - buying the story instead of the item.

Regards,
Teodor

21st April 2011, 01:50 PM	#1
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	Help for Translation Hello, I bought this shashka in Hungary, the blade includes several engravings, somebody can translate me these writings? Thanks in advance. Attached Images

21st April 2011, 06:55 PM	#4
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Your images Eric, Your images are far better than the Ebay images. My initial thoughts from the original Ebay images was repro. I do still feel this way about the thin fittings and seeing the silver solder joins on the ring and throat. The blade inscriptions also seems very crude compared to what was produced by the Zlatoust artisans. Sorry I can't offer anythin other than these observations. PS, looking at the sticker residue on the throat I don't think this was a long standing family heirloom. Gav

21st April 2011, 05:43 PM	#2
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,620	Eric, The writing is in Bulgarian. Съ Нами Богъ means God With Us, and on the other side the inscription За Заслуга means For Merit. The ЗОФ abbreviation stands for Златоустовскя Оружейная Фабрика or Zlatoust Weapon Factory in Russian. Unfortunately, my first impression from the pictures is that the item is not genuine, but a modern replica, intended for reenactors. Regards, Teodor

21st April 2011, 06:10 PM	#3
ericlaude Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 187	Thank you Teodor, I don't know if it a modern reproduction, I brought it to a women who said , it was her gran father sword.