Hairy spear/ lance

danny1976 · 25th March 2014, 04:59 PM

Hello,

Picked up today some spears and two of them are imo intresting i will post them seperatly .

This one is imo from Celebes with a great bunch of horse hair( i think.)
In Holland for at least 50 years that is how long the previous owner had it
Total length is 2.30 m

Ofcourse if there is another opininion about the origin i like to hear it .

Regards ,

Danny

VANDOO · 25th March 2014, 05:28 PM

A VERY NICE SPEAR NOT OFTEN SEEN, I HAVE VERY LITTLE INFORMATION ON THE CELEBES SO CAN'T BE OF MUCH HELP. THEY DO USE HAIR ON THEIR SWORDS THERE SO HAIR ON A SPEAR WOULD FIT. THE HAIR REMINDS ME OF THAT USED ON NAGA WEAPONS FROM INDIA, ASSAM ,ECT. BUT IS NOT NEATLY AND EVENLY CUT AS THEY DO.

Sajen · 25th March 2014, 08:10 PM

Beautiful spear Danny!

Agree about the origin. Would like to see the the spear point cleaned up!

Regards,
Detlef

Albert · 25th March 2014, 09:38 PM

It probably is a tawara from Celebes (see: Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago, page 143). The hair, usually goat's hair, should not run op to the point, but should stop about half way the shaft. I'll post a picture later. Does the foot of the shaft have an iron spike? Congrats with this acquisition!

asomotif · 25th March 2014, 11:04 PM

Hello Danny,

The decorated woodcarving and the hair looks familiar.
I have similar examples and as far as I know this is indeed celebes.

Not a tawara as far as I am concerned.

Albert · 26th March 2014, 12:51 PM

Here a nice photograph of a row of spears from Celebes, made by Albert Grubauer around 1911.

Sajen · 26th March 2014, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Hello Danny,

The decorated woodcarving and the hair looks familiar.
I have similar examples and as far as I know this is indeed celebes.

Not a tawara as far as I am concerned.

Beautiful spear display Willem! From where are the both with the awry shafts?

Regards,
Detlef

danny1976 · 26th March 2014, 08:14 PM

Hi ,

Willem And Albert thank you for the photo's from the spears , it helps à lot And intresting to see .
I wil adjust the hair back in the right position.

Yes Detlef i,m currious also how point wil look after cleaning but i don,t expect something special . When the point is clean i wil post à Photo of it , in end no iron spike maybe its lost in the years..

25th March 2014, 04:59 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hairy spear/ lance Hello, Picked up today some spears and two of them are imo intresting i will post them seperatly . This one is imo from Celebes with a great bunch of horse hair( i think.) In Holland for at least 50 years that is how long the previous owner had it Total length is 2.30 m Ofcourse if there is another opininion about the origin i like to hear it . Regards , Danny Attached Images

25th March 2014, 09:38 PM	#4
Albert Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 194	Tawara It probably is a tawara from Celebes (see: Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago, page 143). The hair, usually goat's hair, should not run op to the point, but should stop about half way the shaft. I'll post a picture later. Does the foot of the shaft have an iron spike? Congrats with this acquisition!

25th March 2014, 11:04 PM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	Hello Danny, The decorated woodcarving and the hair looks familiar. I have similar examples and as far as I know this is indeed celebes. Not a tawara as far as I am concerned. Attached Images

26th March 2014, 12:51 PM	#6
Albert Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 194	Here a nice photograph of a row of spears from Celebes, made by Albert Grubauer around 1911. Attached Images

25th March 2014, 05:28 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	A VERY NICE SPEAR NOT OFTEN SEEN, I HAVE VERY LITTLE INFORMATION ON THE CELEBES SO CAN'T BE OF MUCH HELP. THEY DO USE HAIR ON THEIR SWORDS THERE SO HAIR ON A SPEAR WOULD FIT. THE HAIR REMINDS ME OF THAT USED ON NAGA WEAPONS FROM INDIA, ASSAM ,ECT. BUT IS NOT NEATLY AND EVENLY CUT AS THEY DO.

25th March 2014, 08:10 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,761	Beautiful spear Danny! Agree about the origin. Would like to see the the spear point cleaned up! Regards, Detlef

26th March 2014, 08:14 PM	#8
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi , Willem And Albert thank you for the photo's from the spears , it helps à lot And intresting to see . I wil adjust the hair back in the right position. Yes Detlef i,m currious also how point wil look after cleaning but i don,t expect something special . When the point is clean i wil post à Photo of it , in end no iron spike maybe its lost in the years..