New Dagger For Comments

Robert · 5th November 2006, 11:28 PM

This is my latest acquisition. I haven't received it yet so I just have the photos from the site where I bought it. It is 15" overall with a 9-1/2" blade. Guard and fittings are brass. The horn grip has a few worm holes. The sheath seems newer to me than the dagger and has more of a Mexican or Spanish look to it. The thickness of the guard and the pommel makes this quite different from the other examples that I have seen from the Philippines. Comments please.

Rick · 6th November 2006, 01:39 AM

Water Buffalo horn = Phillipines.

Robert · 6th November 2006, 02:37 AM

Hi Rick,
I guess my original post wasn't that clear. Sorry about that. I know the dagger is from the Philippines and I would guess late 19th or early 20th century. What I was wondering about was the style of the guard and pommel as I have never seen them made this heavy before on this type of dagger. I was hoping that one of the forum members might have or may have seen other examples with this heavy style of guard.

Robert

Battara · 6th November 2006, 09:39 PM

Usually I attribute these waved bladed daggers like this to Illocano manufacture.

Robert · 14th November 2006, 01:07 AM

The dagger arrived today so I will post more pictures tomorrow. This is a very heavy piece weighing in at 1-1/4 lbs. Unlike most daggers like this that I've seen this one would be very good for slashing as well as for stabbing. A very nicely made blade that is still quite sharp. There is a little difference in the dimensions so here are the correct ones.

Blade length = 9-1/8"
Blade at widest = 1-3/4"
Blade at thickest = 3/8"
Guard thickness = 13/16"
Hilt length = 4-7/8"
Pommel cap thickness = 1/4"

Robert

Ian · 14th November 2006, 01:44 AM

Nice example Robert. Definitely from Luzon, perhaps north of Manila. BTW, I would give the sheath a little mink oil to keep it supple.

Ian.

Robert · 14th November 2006, 02:15 AM

Hi Ian,
Thank you for your reply. You are not going to believe this but I just got through going over the sheath WITH mink oil when you made your post.

Robert

Ian · 14th November 2006, 02:53 AM

Good job! It looked a little dry. This synchronicity stuff is really weird.

Ian.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Hi Ian,
Thank you for your reply. You are not going to believe this but I just got through going over the sheath WITH mink oil when you made your post.

Robert

Battara · 14th November 2006, 08:34 PM

It's also not a bad album by the Police!

Robert · 14th November 2006, 10:26 PM

Here are the new pictures. When I put the mink oil on the sheath it really made a difference in the way it looks.

5th November 2006, 11:28 PM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	New Dagger For Comments This is my latest acquisition. I haven't received it yet so I just have the photos from the site where I bought it. It is 15" overall with a 9-1/2" blade. Guard and fittings are brass. The horn grip has a few worm holes. The sheath seems newer to me than the dagger and has more of a Mexican or Spanish look to it. The thickness of the guard and the pommel makes this quite different from the other examples that I have seen from the Philippines. Comments please. Attached Images Last edited by Robert Coleman; 5th November 2006 at 11:58 PM.

14th November 2006, 10:26 PM	#10
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Here are the new pictures. When I put the mink oil on the sheath it really made a difference in the way it looks. Attached Images

6th November 2006, 01:39 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Water Buffalo horn = Phillipines.

6th November 2006, 02:37 AM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hi Rick, I guess my original post wasn't that clear. Sorry about that. I know the dagger is from the Philippines and I would guess late 19th or early 20th century. What I was wondering about was the style of the guard and pommel as I have never seen them made this heavy before on this type of dagger. I was hoping that one of the forum members might have or may have seen other examples with this heavy style of guard. Robert

6th November 2006, 09:39 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Usually I attribute these waved bladed daggers like this to Illocano manufacture.

14th November 2006, 01:07 AM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	The dagger arrived today so I will post more pictures tomorrow. This is a very heavy piece weighing in at 1-1/4 lbs. Unlike most daggers like this that I've seen this one would be very good for slashing as well as for stabbing. A very nicely made blade that is still quite sharp. There is a little difference in the dimensions so here are the correct ones. Blade length = 9-1/8" Blade at widest = 1-3/4" Blade at thickest = 3/8" Guard thickness = 13/16" Hilt length = 4-7/8" Pommel cap thickness = 1/4" Robert

14th November 2006, 01:44 AM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Nice example Robert. Definitely from Luzon, perhaps north of Manila. BTW, I would give the sheath a little mink oil to keep it supple. Ian.

14th November 2006, 02:15 AM	#7
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hi Ian, Thank you for your reply. You are not going to believe this but I just got through going over the sheath WITH mink oil when you made your post. Robert

14th November 2006, 08:34 PM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	It's also not a bad album by the Police!