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Old 28th November 2013, 05:50 AM   #1
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Moro kris with two patterns
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Old 28th November 2013, 05:59 AM   #2
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What a great and fascinating piece!

I love the pommel carving and the styles of the laminations. Rare but not unheard of. On my more recent Moro kris example, the lamination up top is similar but changes into another type down the blade.

Thanks for posting this.
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Old 28th November 2013, 07:34 AM   #3
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Jose: It is a twist-core on one side, and a linnear pattern on the other side.
Blade is 23 inches long, 29 inches overall. I also have a barong with a
random pattern and a linnear pattern. You can see where both plates
were welded together. I wonder if there are more variations out there.
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Old 28th November 2013, 05:25 PM   #4
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didn't hit me as twistcore til you mentioned it Dave! Wow, that's different!! i believe the barung with different sides has been posted here before. i can't find it, tho. this kris, i'm assuming they run out of material so they use a different pattern???
nice twistcore btw... need to post more of these twisties
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Old 29th November 2013, 01:21 AM   #5
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Jose: It is a twist-core on one side, and a linnear pattern on the other side.
Blade is 23 inches long, 29 inches overall. I also have a barong with a
random pattern and a linnear pattern. You can see where both plates
were welded together. I wonder if there are more variations out there.
Dave.
Indeed an unusual sight.

I've seen different patterns on Indian sabres and I have a special one on a Keris but it is the first Moro example I have seen, thanks for posting.

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Old 29th November 2013, 06:29 PM   #6
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Hey Dave-
I faintly recall you mentioning a Barung with two different patterns on opposing sides.
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Old 29th November 2013, 07:43 PM   #7
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Very interesting example. The blade is superb, and like Battara I really like the hilt carving.

I am assuming this is two panels of steel forged together. Very unique and says a lot about the smith not to make a mess of it.

Thanks for posting.
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Old 29th November 2013, 10:22 PM   #8
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I am assuming this is two panels of steel forged together.
Two twisted bars on one side and one with horizontal layers on the other of the core.

Besides a very rare pattern also beautifully carved details at the base of blade. Would it be possible to see the whole blade from both sides?
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Old 30th November 2013, 06:07 AM   #9
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Gustav: When i get a chance next week i'll post pictures of both sides of
This blade.
Albert: That double patterned barong that you mentioned is on the big
board that i take to the Oregon Show. It had a few rust marks on
it so i took it off and gave it a fresh etch. I can't remember you
posting it for me so maybe i will try to do it next week also...Dave
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Old 30th November 2013, 06:21 AM   #10
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Charles: While i'm not a bladesmith i think this has to be two different
plates welded together so when the edge is sharpened the weld-
line disappears, wereas on the top edge of the barong you can
clearly see a weld-line. I keep thinking i have another kris with
two patterns somewhere in our collection. if i can hunt it up i'll
try and post some pictures.........Dave
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