"Tiger teeth dagger"

[Marcus]

I just bought a "Tiger tooth dagger"
Is there a more specific ( i.e Indian) name for this type of khan jar other than than Tiger tooth?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Marcus

I just bought a "Tiger tooth dagger"
Is there a more specific ( i.e Indian) name for this type of khan jar other than than Tiger tooth?

Marcus, I have always like this particular style of dagger, as far as names go I have seen many described as "tiger tooth Jambiya". I do not know if they have a particular name.

[Marcus]

The one in the center looks like the one I have on order from Oriental Arms but that is not one of the pictures posted. I that the same dagger or a twin?

[russel]

Originally Posted by Marcus

The one in the center looks like the one I have on order from Oriental Arms but that is not one of the pictures posted. I that the same dagger or a twin?

On close inspection, the are definitely the same dagger. IMHO

[Marcus]

I agree. I took the image posted and rotated it. It is Artzi's picture modified and with the watermark removed.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Marcus

The one in the center looks like the one I have on order from Oriental Arms but that is not one of the pictures posted. I that the same dagger or a twin?

It came from here.

http://www.pinterest.com/worldantiqu...-short-swords/

[Jens Nordlunde]

And before it landed there, from where did it then come, that picture and all the others?

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

And before it landed there, from where did it then come, that picture and all the others?

What does this have to do with the original question?

Is there a more specific ( i.e Indian) name for this type of khan jar other than than Tiger tooth?

[Marcus]

I would also like to know if these were more likely associated with the Mughal Empire or Hindu kingdoms.

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Marcus

I would also like to know if these were more likely associated with the Mughal Empire or Hindu kingdoms.

It seems that not much is known about this particular type of Indian dagger. Most I have seen are simply described as being from North India, age ranges have been from the 18th to 19th centuries, I noticed that yours was not given an age in its description.

[Marcus]

Artzi suggests:
Late 18 - early 19 C

[Oriental-Arms]

The name “Tiger Teeth” (Tigerzhan) appears in an old booklet by Hermann Historica : DOLCH und MESSER aus dem PERSISCHEN KULTURRAUM and it is related to the Mogul empire

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Oriental-Arms

The name “Tiger Teeth” (Tigerzhan) appears in an old booklet by Hermann Historica : DOLCH und MESSER aus dem PERSISCHEN KULTURRAUM and it is related to the Mogul empire

Dolche und Messer aus dem Persischen Kulturraum
1984 (Daggers and knives made ​​of the Persian cultural region
in 1984)

123 different daggers and knives from Islamic countries from the 17th-19th Century
60 pages, 2 color plates, numerous black and white photos, descriptions and history of development in German language

Still available it looks like.
http://www.hermann-historica.de/db2_...lagewerke.html

[Runjeet Singh]

A favorite among the Sikhs, if you go to Amritsar to visit the Golden Temple, you will find the souvenir shops selling replicas (some are quite good!), and many Sikhs wearing them as 'Kirpan's' (the Sikh holy dagger).

An old Sikh term, although I have no written sources, is 'Jaam Dhar' - literally 'Demons Tooth'.

It should also be noted, that as far as I know, 'Jambiya' isn't a word that is widely used in the Indian languages, the Indian word is 'Khanjar'.

Regards
Runjeet

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Akaalarms

A favorite among the Sikhs, if you go to Amritsar to visit the Golden Temple, you will find the souvenir shops selling replicas (some are quite good!), and many Sikhs wearing them as 'Kirpan's' (the Sikh holy dagger).

An old Sikh term, although I have no written sources, is 'Jaam Dhar' - literally 'Demons Tooth'.

It should also be noted, that as far as I know, 'Jambiya' isn't a word that is widely used in the Indian languages, the Indian word is 'Khanjar'.

Regards
Runjeet

Runjeet, here is a reference from a late 1800s enyclopedia on Indian terms.("Jambya, Hind., a form of dagger."). Maybe it is an older term that fell out of use.

[Runjeet Singh]

Eric,

My experience is based on North Indian languages and culture, but I guess, the Arab traders and settlers, especially in South India, would have used the word 'Jambiya'. Do you have a title and author for the encyclopedia?

Thanks for the link for the Hermann Historica books, I didn't realize they were still available. I have the 1984 and 1986 with the Tiger tooth and Pesh Kabz on it, does anybody know if the others are worth buying?

Regards
Runjeet

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Akaalarms

Eric,

My experience is based on North Indian languages and culture, but I guess, the Arab traders and settlers, especially in South India, would have used the word 'Jambiya'. Do you have a title and author for the encyclopedia?

Thanks for the link for the Hermann Historica books, I didn't realize they were still available. I have the 1984 and 1986 with the Tiger tooth and Pesh Kabz on it, does anybody know if the others are worth buying?

Regards
Runjeet

Runjeet, this is it. "The Cyclopædia of India and of Eastern and Southern Asia: Commercial, Industrial and Scientific, Products of the Mineral, Vegetable, and Animal Kingdoms, Useful Arts and Manufactures, Volume 3",
Edward Balfour, B. Quaritch, 1885.

[Marcus]

Estcrh and Runjeet,
Thanks for this information. I look forward to getting my dagger from Artzi soon and will post some pictures.
Marcus

[estcrh]

Originally Posted by Marcus

Estcrh and Runjeet,
Thanks for this information. I look forward to getting my dagger from Artzi soon and will post some pictures.
Marcus

Marcus, some additional pictures would be nice, your is the only one I have seen with pierced / open work on the blade.

[Marcus]

Enjoy

[estcrh]

Marcus, nice pictures, I really like this one.