N. American club.

Tim Simmons · 14th July 2015, 09:22 AM

Just want to show my latest Great Plains club. A nice old one there is some fragility where the horse hair is attached but not enough to effect collecting appeal in my opinion. Oh and some bead loss on the haft which could only have been a few originally.

colin henshaw · 14th July 2015, 12:21 PM

Looks a nice old piece Tim, well done. Can you tell if the stitching is done with sinew ?

Regards.

Ian · 14th July 2015, 02:23 PM

Hi Tim:

Any chance this is a Native American drumstick. I know that the "beating" end of the stick was usually covered with hide but perhaps someone went all the way on this one. It looks the right shape and length for a drumstick. Just a thought.

Ian.

Tim Simmons · 14th July 2015, 03:25 PM

Possible drum stick? I do not think so as the head is really quite heavy. Here next to a floppy head club. It is all sinew. It does make me question the floppy head piece. Which is all sinew sewn. The beads around the head are on sinew but the beads around the haft and at the horse hair are on a thread, which is remarkably clean but that does not necessarily need something is old or not.

Tim Simmons · 14th July 2015, 05:00 PM

Thinking about drum sticks. I can imagine heavy rigid beaters if the percussion instruments were of a wood shell structure, like hollow log drums. I do not think that type of drum is used on the American Plains?

colin henshaw · 14th July 2015, 06:21 PM

It seems a bit unlikely this item could be a drumstick, here are some extracts for reference, from the useful book "Indian & Eskimo Artifacts of North America" by Charles Miles...

Tim Simmons · 15th July 2015, 04:57 PM

There not drum sticks but also not full combat club weapons. There are far more about status however you could easily wack an underling. With some African examples.

14th July 2015, 09:22 AM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	N. American club. Just want to show my latest Great Plains club. A nice old one there is some fragility where the horse hair is attached but not enough to effect collecting appeal in my opinion. Oh and some bead loss on the haft which could only have been a few originally. Attached Images

14th July 2015, 03:25 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Possible drum stick? I do not think so as the head is really quite heavy. Here next to a floppy head club. It is all sinew. It does make me question the floppy head piece. Which is all sinew sewn. The beads around the head are on sinew but the beads around the haft and at the horse hair are on a thread, which is remarkably clean but that does not necessarily need something is old or not. Attached Images

14th July 2015, 06:21 PM	#6
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	It seems a bit unlikely this item could be a drumstick, here are some extracts for reference, from the useful book "Indian & Eskimo Artifacts of North America" by Charles Miles... Attached Images

15th July 2015, 04:57 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	There not drum sticks but also not full combat club weapons. There are far more about status however you could easily wack an underling. With some African examples. Attached Images

14th July 2015, 12:21 PM	#2
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Looks a nice old piece Tim, well done. Can you tell if the stitching is done with sinew ? Regards.

14th July 2015, 02:23 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,198	Hi Tim: Any chance this is a Native American drumstick. I know that the "beating" end of the stick was usually covered with hide but perhaps someone went all the way on this one. It looks the right shape and length for a drumstick. Just a thought. Ian.

14th July 2015, 05:00 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Thinking about drum sticks. I can imagine heavy rigid beaters if the percussion instruments were of a wood shell structure, like hollow log drums. I do not think that type of drum is used on the American Plains?