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Old 15th June 2012, 02:20 PM   #1
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can you help me identify this Indonesian sword, 77 cm long and the blade 63 cm

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Old 15th June 2012, 06:18 PM   #2
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Interesting piece. Are the pins brass or silver?
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Old 15th June 2012, 07:39 PM   #3
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the pins is brass
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Old 15th June 2012, 08:17 PM   #4
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My first thoughts went to Borneo; a 'nyabor' type blade, a bit a Sumatran type hilt though. >Unusual type of Nyabor ?< ('nyabor' is used in Borneo; Sarawak side, near Brunei).
But am far from sure . . . . .
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Old 16th June 2012, 12:09 AM   #5
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It says Sumatra to me .
I love it .
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Old 16th June 2012, 12:14 AM   #6
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I too thought Sumatra. You've done a nice job cleaning it up.

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Old 16th June 2012, 09:45 AM   #7
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I think it's Sumatra, too, even if I don't remember to have seen anything like it before.
If not Sumatra maybe Malaysia?

The hilt style and material resembles those of Aceh. The pins form an eyes of Shiva triangular motif that is almost
only found in Sumatra, among the islands of the Malay archipelago.
The blade shape is a bit puzzling, however, it is not even slightly related to any of the Iban or other Dayak swords.

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Old 16th June 2012, 05:40 PM   #8
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Maybe it is from Jambi on Sumatra.

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Old 17th June 2012, 08:04 AM   #9
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Yes, that is quite possible.
Often you find a bit odd weapons, and unusual variations that resemble swords from Aceh, coming from Jambi.

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Old 18th June 2012, 09:52 PM   #10
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I found this in the Collection RMV Leiden described as Jambi :

inventarisnummer:3600-1094
titel: sabel
materiaal/techniek: ijzer ; hout
ander inventarisnummer: Spat 4813 (Oudnr Breda) ; HCK 8/7 (Oudnr Breda HCK)
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Old 18th June 2012, 11:55 PM   #11
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Willem, yours (from Leiden) seems to be a Jambi variation of the Aceh peudeung, but with another hilt.

Michael

PS Here is the Aceh version with horn hilt.
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