Exhibition in the Real Alcazar, Seville

B.I · 17th August 2006, 11:31 PM

hi,
i just got my catalogue (large, well written book) for the seville exhibition related to art of the period of Ibn Khaldun (14thC).
the exhibition looks fantastic, and was wondering if anyone had managed to see it (still on till september)??
marc?
there are pieces borrowed from all over, inc madrid and a collection i know in london.
really important pieces and a well planned exhibition of andalusian and nasrid art (with arms of course).
i hope to get there before its over, but running out of time (as always).
would love a first hand opinion.

ariel · 18th August 2006, 01:58 AM

How can I get a copy of this catalogue?
Can you check with the museum ?
I am sure there will be more takers.

B.I · 18th August 2006, 10:05 AM

hey ariel,
a friend has some pieces in the exhibition, and was sent two copies, which was how i got mine.
isbn 84-96556-35-2
84-96395-22-7
be warned that there are only a very small handful of arms in the exhibition. but, for anyone interested in the period or the direct crossover of islamic and christian art, its a must. its big, well written and wel illustrated.
maybe marc can source a suppy?

wolviex · 18th August 2006, 10:24 AM

This is link to exhibition site:

http://www.ibnjaldun.com/index.php?id=64&L=7

go to the virtual shop where you can find external link to this site:

http://www.fundacionjmlara.org/principal.html

choose from menu: TIENDA VIRTUAL --> tienda virtual (you have to get pop-up enabled). Book price is 60 (euro?)

ariel · 18th August 2006, 06:30 PM

Many thanks.
Can you specify how much "weapon-related" stuff was there and what kind of weapons were reviewed?

Aqtai · 18th August 2006, 08:58 PM

They do have one very interesting piece, the helmet of Sultan Muhammad ibn Qalawun, one the earliest surving Mamluk helmets. An item I have previously seen only in poor quality black and white photos. I would buy the catalogue for that alone if there are good quality colour pics of it in there.

B.I · 21st August 2006, 09:01 PM

sorry, ariel, i was bookless over the weekend.
there are only a small amount of weapons, but all of which are important given the period. the catalogue is more for those into the period and the art/history of the christian/islamic crossover.
there is -

loshult cannon
combat helmet (fragment)
nasrid ear dagger
boabdils sword
hand cannon
ribaudequin
leg guard
nasrid crossbow
standard
ibn qalawuns helmet.

thats it i think. it is well written and in depth and worth buying as the period is so fascinating.

B.I · 21st August 2006, 09:02 PM

for aqtai

ariel · 21st August 2006, 09:36 PM

Can you show pics of the dagger and the sword?

Aqtai · 21st August 2006, 09:45 PM

Thanks B.I. I think I'm going to buy this book.

Is the mail Aventail on the helmet original? Muhammad Ibn Qalawun died around 1341 AD, and yet that aventail is strikingly similar to "Indo-Persian" mail aventails on 17th-18th century "kulah khud" style helmets.

Aqtai · 23rd August 2006, 03:09 PM

Is it just me, or has anyone else found that the "Virtual Shop" on the Ibn Khaldun website isn't working. I tried ordering the catalogue from the other website, unfortunately I don't know Spanish, so I didn't get very far.

B.I · 28th August 2006, 11:20 AM

Sorry Ariel, I was awol for a little while

17th August 2006, 11:31 PM	#1
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	Exhibition in the Real Alcazar, Seville hi, i just got my catalogue (large, well written book) for the seville exhibition related to art of the period of Ibn Khaldun (14thC). the exhibition looks fantastic, and was wondering if anyone had managed to see it (still on till september)?? marc? there are pieces borrowed from all over, inc madrid and a collection i know in london. really important pieces and a well planned exhibition of andalusian and nasrid art (with arms of course). i hope to get there before its over, but running out of time (as always). would love a first hand opinion.

18th August 2006, 10:24 AM	#4
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 418	links This is link to exhibition site: http://www.ibnjaldun.com/index.php?id=64&L=7 go to the virtual shop where you can find external link to this site: http://www.fundacionjmlara.org/principal.html choose from menu: TIENDA VIRTUAL --> tienda virtual (you have to get pop-up enabled). Book price is 60 (euro?)

21st August 2006, 09:02 PM	#8
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	for aqtai Attached Images

23rd August 2006, 03:09 PM	#11
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	Virtual shop not working Is it just me, or has anyone else found that the "Virtual Shop" on the Ibn Khaldun website isn't working. I tried ordering the catalogue from the other website, unfortunately I don't know Spanish, so I didn't get very far.

28th August 2006, 11:20 AM	#12
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	Sorry Ariel, I was awol for a little while Attached Images

18th August 2006, 01:58 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	How can I get a copy of this catalogue? Can you check with the museum ? I am sure there will be more takers.

18th August 2006, 10:05 AM	#3
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	hey ariel, a friend has some pieces in the exhibition, and was sent two copies, which was how i got mine. isbn 84-96556-35-2 84-96395-22-7 be warned that there are only a very small handful of arms in the exhibition. but, for anyone interested in the period or the direct crossover of islamic and christian art, its a must. its big, well written and wel illustrated. maybe marc can source a suppy?

18th August 2006, 06:30 PM	#5
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Many thanks. Can you specify how much "weapon-related" stuff was there and what kind of weapons were reviewed?

18th August 2006, 08:58 PM	#6
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	They do have one very interesting piece, the helmet of Sultan Muhammad ibn Qalawun, one the earliest surving Mamluk helmets. An item I have previously seen only in poor quality black and white photos. I would buy the catalogue for that alone if there are good quality colour pics of it in there.

21st August 2006, 09:01 PM	#7
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	sorry, ariel, i was bookless over the weekend. there are only a small amount of weapons, but all of which are important given the period. the catalogue is more for those into the period and the art/history of the christian/islamic crossover. there is - loshult cannon combat helmet (fragment) nasrid ear dagger boabdils sword hand cannon ribaudequin leg guard nasrid crossbow standard ibn qalawuns helmet. thats it i think. it is well written and in depth and worth buying as the period is so fascinating.

21st August 2006, 09:36 PM	#9
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Can you show pics of the dagger and the sword?

21st August 2006, 09:45 PM	#10
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	Thanks B.I. I think I'm going to buy this book. Is the mail Aventail on the helmet original? Muhammad Ibn Qalawun died around 1341 AD, and yet that aventail is strikingly similar to "Indo-Persian" mail aventails on 17th-18th century "kulah khud" style helmets.