OTTOMAN SHIELD FOR COMMENTS

Valjhun · 13th May 2010, 11:09 PM

I've just bought that shield. It seems ottoman to me, not a typical kalkan thou. I have no great knowledge about thoose, so I'm asking you for opinions. Thank you.

Dom · 13th May 2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Valjhun

I've just bought that shield. It seems ottoman to me, not a typical kalkan thou. I have no great knowledge about thoose, so I'm asking you for opinions. Thank you.

Hi Valjhun
don't looks more "Indian Dhal" than "Ottoman Target" ??

may be, I'm wrong

anyway looks very robust

à +

Dom

Battara · 14th May 2010, 01:40 AM

I was thinking closer to a Baluchastan buckler.

Rick · 14th May 2010, 02:18 AM

The bosses look like they've been tested .
I wonder what was in the center one .

BTW,
Good aliteration, Jose .

Valjhun · 14th May 2010, 10:42 AM

a flower?

or maybe even a diamond sectioned spike?

A Senefelder · 14th May 2010, 02:45 PM

This is a bit of an oddity. While the four rings on the back for either a pair of straps or one continuous leather strap run through all four ( both methods work the same, the hand is passed through the strap/straps and when a fist is made the strap/straps are tightened giving sold control in the single hand ) are usually seen on Indo-Persian and Turk shields as is often the four front bosses each supporting one of the strap rings on the back side, the reinforcing straps and heavy rivets speaks to a more European manufacture. Perhaps one of the Eastern European states that was vasal to the Turks at various times and saw alot of mixing of military technology and tastes between east and west? Its quite possible that the missing item in the center is a parrying spike. I'm most used to seeing these on Highland targes of the 17th and 18th centuries but that doesn't mean the idea was new or strictly local to Scotland.

Its very simple, somewhat crude manufacture certainly lends itself to more of a munitions feel,a very stout serviceable piece with few frills. This is an Italian mid 16th century buckler we have for comparison http://www.merctailor.com/originals.php?original_pk=105

13th May 2010, 11:09 PM	#1
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	OTTOMAN SHIELD FOR COMMENTS I've just bought that shield. It seems ottoman to me, not a typical kalkan thou. I have no great knowledge about thoose, so I'm asking you for opinions. Thank you. Attached Images

14th May 2010, 02:18 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,291	The bosses look like they've been tested . I wonder what was in the center one . BTW, Good aliteration, Jose . Last edited by Rick; 14th May 2010 at 02:30 AM.

14th May 2010, 01:40 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	I was thinking closer to a Baluchastan buckler.

14th May 2010, 10:42 AM	#5
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	a flower? or maybe even a diamond sectioned spike?

14th May 2010, 02:45 PM	#6
A Senefelder Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 214	This is a bit of an oddity. While the four rings on the back for either a pair of straps or one continuous leather strap run through all four ( both methods work the same, the hand is passed through the strap/straps and when a fist is made the strap/straps are tightened giving sold control in the single hand ) are usually seen on Indo-Persian and Turk shields as is often the four front bosses each supporting one of the strap rings on the back side, the reinforcing straps and heavy rivets speaks to a more European manufacture. Perhaps one of the Eastern European states that was vasal to the Turks at various times and saw alot of mixing of military technology and tastes between east and west? Its quite possible that the missing item in the center is a parrying spike. I'm most used to seeing these on Highland targes of the 17th and 18th centuries but that doesn't mean the idea was new or strictly local to Scotland. Its very simple, somewhat crude manufacture certainly lends itself to more of a munitions feel,a very stout serviceable piece with few frills. This is an Italian mid 16th century buckler we have for comparison http://www.merctailor.com/originals.php?original_pk=105