Langgai tinggang

[Dajak]

An very rare find this Langgai tingggang it comes with an utility knife not the normal pisa raout we normally see with the Parang Ilang .

The Handle has nice scroll and leech designs and headtrophy spirit
the area is Saribas .

The longest tail feather of a rhinoceros Hornbill is represented by the groove on the blade .

Also the metal bands indicate that this one is from the north part off Sarawak.

The scabbard on the front is heavy black/red hard wood .

Nice carrying band .

Indication off age is first part off the 19 centh.

Ben

[Maurice]

Wow Ben,


That is a rare find!
Did you grab it out of a museum at night when nobodys there?
(Well in Bronbeek I didn,t see such nice piece as you have).

I also like the shape of the scabbard. Never have seen such with that round looking shape which holds the sharp edge of the blade when it,s in the scabbard.
Also the attractive handle is one of the book!
Can you please post some pics of the handle from the side and back?

I,m looking forward to hold it once! (or twice, or more often).

Regards,
Maurice

[Dajak]

Hi Maurice even pieces like this are hard to find in museums .

It comes from an Dutch collection I have still to ask the history about it,
will let you know when you come over here to visit me .

I did get some very rare items from Borneo you will be surprised .



this is the typical Iban Handle that you can find in Saribas .

If you see this one in real you will be surprised from the heavy blade and that
it looks better than I get it on the pics .



Ben

[VVV]

A true beauty!

The scabbard is indeed unusual for a LT. Usually they are much more plain, if they have a scabbard left at all.
Unusually cubistic head on the handle too as well as the unorthodox (for a LT) protrusions on the top of the tip.
A very interesting and rare version of the already rare LT-parang - congratulations!

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi Michael


Thanks the handle is typical for the saribas area the Ibans there did use
this type in the book Iban Art from Heppel there are several nice Handle s
to see .

The scabbard is rare the krowit dissapear in the round wooden tube.
And also rare on Iban weapons are the pocket for the pisau raout.

Ben

[kronckew]

mine with a wooden grip isn't quite up to that standard....

nice to hear they are rare....i think mine is a bit newer than most tho....

[VVV]

Here are the 2 other variations of krowit that could be seen on a LT.
I haven't seen any other variations than these 3 but maybe someone else has?

Michael

[Dajak]

Nice example s Michael can you show the complete blade .

I was this day with some famous collectors showing the Langgai tingang
and it was reconised that is from the Herbert Da Silva collection .

Wich was at christie's in Amsterdam in 2001 .


Ben

[Maurice]

Ben, thanks for the additional pics. I really like those handles. I myself have two of those handles with headfigures. (unfortunately not on a langgai tinggang).

Originally Posted by Dajak

It comes from an Dutch collection I have still to ask the history about it,
will let you know when you come over here to visit me .

I thought the Netherlands should be a small country. It seemed to be bigger as I thought. I didn,t know the former owner!

Originally Posted by Dajak

I did get some very rare items from Borneo you will be surprised .

I believe you, till next month!

Originally Posted by Dajak

If you see this one in real you will be surprised from the heavy blade and that
it looks better than I get it on the pics .

I love the blades to be heavy. The heavier the better. And I now a seller who has problems the otherway around as you do. Better pics than in real!

Originally Posted by VVV

Here are the 2 other variations of krowit that could be seen on a LT.
I haven't seen any other variations than these 3 but maybe someone else has?

I wish I had Michael........at least one of the 3 depicted in this thread coming year????

[VVV]

Hi Ben,

Here are the blades.
But it was the krowit variations that were interesting.

Also my latest LT with the sellers e-Bay pictures.
The krowit variation is the same as Ben's but the blade isn't as nice as his.
The hilt however is quite unusual. I think it's old style West Kalimantan Iban.

Michael

[Tim Simmons]

The wire on the handle looks like zinc and copper? or is it a type of rattan?

[VVV]

It's rattan.

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi Michael the first 2 pieces are missing the fat metal below the handle that
we mostly see on the L T the one you will get has the metal below the Handle .

Are the 2 first ones have heavy blade's ??

It looks that those 2 are more an variation between the parang niabor / L T

can you send close upp pics off the handle s .


Ben

[VVV]

Hi Ben.

I already have the last one but I haven't had time to take my own pictures of it.
The "missing" fat metal is common but not something that always is there.
The LT in the museum of Nijmegen for instance doesn't have it either.
That one also has a triangular crowit resembling my first (and the one pictured in Iban Art).
All of them have thick shoulders and are quite heavy, but well balanced.
It's interesting that the one described in Shelford doesn't seem to have the crowit we usually associate with a LT?
There seems to be quite a variation of features on the LT, like the Ilang.
On the best one I have seen so far the crowit stands out even more than your other one
(the one that I owned for some years) and the blade is heavy decorated.

Michael

[asomotif]

Ben,

Very nice Langai Tinggai. I like the scabbard.
But as for the age you say :

first part off the 19 centh.

Do you mean this to be between 1800 - 1850 ?

Best regards,
Willem

[Dajak]

Originally Posted by VVV

Hi Ben.

I already have the last one but I haven't had time to take my own pictures of it.
The "missing" fat metal is common but not something that always is there.
The LT in the museum of Nijmegen for instance doesn't have it either.
That one also has a triangular crowit resembling my first (and the one pictured in Iban Art).
All of them have thick shoulders and are quite heavy, but well balanced.
It's interesting that the one described in Shelford doesn't seem to have the crowit we usually associate with a LT?
There seems to be quite a variation of features on the LT, like the Ilang.
On the best one I have seen so far the crowit stands out even more than your other one
(the one that I owned for some years) and the blade is heavy decorated.

Michael

Michael I think that the ones with the fat metal are a little closer to the parang niabor because we find the same just a little longer on the niabor also
the area has maybe something to do with it but the first handle is for sure Saribas area .

Shelford says about the lT that it is practically the same as the niabor with the handle of an parang Ilang .
And the niabor has the fat metal below the handle.

(I am glad that the other one LT is back after years with you .)

can you make some nice pics about your last LT

Ben

Ben

[VVV]

Yes, the other one of yours is a top piece too.
I agree that the LT and the Parang Nyabur are very close to each other but as usual some individual variations show up now and then.
For instance the crowit of my LT #2 is very close to a kundieng of the Nyabur.
It's too dark here now and I am almost never at home during daylight.
So it will take some time before I will take pictures of the last months acquisitions.

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi Michael

Yes that is the strange about it they are closer with that to an Niabor .

So difficult with the variations .

But always nice to know that they are there .


Ben

[Dajak]

Arjan can you put some pics off your LT on this thread .




Ben

[VVV]

While waiting for Arjan's pictures here are some of the LT I only had eBay pictures of before.
The blade, which I have cleaned, is very plain without any engravings.
The hilt is quite unusual too.

Michael

[Dajak]

Hi Michael nice blade .

I have seen this type off handle before it is Iban for sure .

Ben

[VVV]

Thanks for the confirmation Ben!

Any more LTs to add?
Arjan?

Michael

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by VVV

Thanks for the confirmation Ben!

Any more LTs to add?
Arjan?

Michael

Hi , I will add it soon , but on an other website

[Dajak]

Originally Posted by mandaukudi

Hi , I will add it soon , but on an other website

Aah you gonna try to sell it .


Ben

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Aah you gonna try to sell it .


Ben

[asomotif]

Will it be on Maurice's website soon

[Maurice]

Originally Posted by asomotif

Will it be on Maurice's website soon

And maybe from Maurice,s website to Willems flea market soon?

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by Maurice

And maybe from Maurice,s website to Willems flea market soon?

Guy's guy's,

I said what I said,
I meant what I meant.
About my rare sword
many words can be spend.
It will for sure go away.
but let it be first be X-Mass day.


From The Netherlands ´´Een heel gelukkig kerstfeest !``!!!!

[Dajak]

Hi Arjan it is only for information to show your LT here we ask you to put
some pics .(we don't mind you gonna sell it later on )

So we like to see it .




Thanks Ben

Ben

[Mytribalworld]

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi Arjan it is only for information to show your LT here we ask you to put
some pics .(we don't mind you gonna sell it later on )

So we like to see it .




Thanks Ben

Ben

Hi Ben,

Actually I thougth that I could make some time but I feel sorry but its not easy to combine all my tasks these days ... so wait some days , sorry.