Austrian civil servant sword manufacturer ID

mariusgmioc · 26th June 2021, 12:36 PM

Hello,

I have this Austrian civil servant sword from around 1900 bearing the monogram of emperor Franz Josef I (reigned 1848-1916).

Can somebody help me please identify the manufacturer of the blade?!

The marking writes "SCLLIN(G)..."

PS: I assumed it to be a misspelling of SOLINGEN as "SOLLIN(G)..." but the second letter is a clear "C" and Solingen was a well known name, thus unlikely to be misspelled so grossly.

corrado26 · 27th June 2021, 06:16 PM

I think the man who cut the letters into the blade was no German speaking individuum, may be a Hungarian or Serbian - the Habsburg Empire was of many nationalities at that time - probably he had no idea how SOLINGEN has to be written correctly

df1967 · 1st July 2021, 03:05 PM

If it would come from Solingen i believe they would have known how to spell the own City, so Solingen is for me no Option. I dont know it....

Gonzoadler · 2nd July 2021, 03:47 PM

Hello,

I think it really means simply "Solingen". Such marks are often a little misprinted, but normally spelled in the correct manner. So, that is a bit strange. But the letters are looking like punched separately in the blade, so maybe an explanation could be that the man who made it had bad eyes and has forgotten his glasses.

Regards
Robin

Jim McDougall · 2nd July 2021, 06:11 PM

With the poorly stamped lettering, and incomplete, I think Marius is right in his initial observation, and the 'C' may be a broken or poorly stamped letter. These stamps degraded over time and use and often caused incomplete or poorly placed markings.
It seems much like the case with minted coins where flaws and errors are the root of high value in many cases.
The notion of SOLLING seems right. I have seen varied spellings of Solingen, and even in Solingen itself, foreign workers in shops had obvious misgivings with language.

26th June 2021, 12:36 PM	#1
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	Austrian civil servant sword manufacturer ID Hello, I have this Austrian civil servant sword from around 1900 bearing the monogram of emperor Franz Josef I (reigned 1848-1916). Can somebody help me please identify the manufacturer of the blade?! The marking writes "SCLLIN(G)..." PS: I assumed it to be a misspelling of SOLINGEN as "SOLLIN(G)..." but the second letter is a clear "C" and Solingen was a well known name, thus unlikely to be misspelled so grossly. Attached Images Last edited by mariusgmioc; 26th June 2021 at 01:23 PM.

27th June 2021, 06:16 PM	#2
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,207	I think the man who cut the letters into the blade was no German speaking individuum, may be a Hungarian or Serbian - the Habsburg Empire was of many nationalities at that time - probably he had no idea how SOLINGEN has to be written correctly

1st July 2021, 03:05 PM	#3
df1967 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Germany Posts: 36	If it would come from Solingen i believe they would have known how to spell the own City, so Solingen is for me no Option. I dont know it....

2nd July 2021, 03:47 PM	#4
Gonzoadler Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Germany Posts: 244	Hello, I think it really means simply "Solingen". Such marks are often a little misprinted, but normally spelled in the correct manner. So, that is a bit strange. But the letters are looking like punched separately in the blade, so maybe an explanation could be that the man who made it had bad eyes and has forgotten his glasses. Regards Robin

2nd July 2021, 06:11 PM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,954	With the poorly stamped lettering, and incomplete, I think Marius is right in his initial observation, and the 'C' may be a broken or poorly stamped letter. These stamps degraded over time and use and often caused incomplete or poorly placed markings. It seems much like the case with minted coins where flaws and errors are the root of high value in many cases. The notion of SOLLING seems right. I have seen varied spellings of Solingen, and even in Solingen itself, foreign workers in shops had obvious misgivings with language.