First Philippine Republic dagger from Vigan

mdp10003 · 4th August 2013, 08:08 PM

Hi!

I am posting pictures on something I just won in an auction. I still have to receive it, so I am posting pictures from the auctioneer.

The over-all length is 12 inches, the sheath looks like it is silver with the Three Stars and Sun emblem, as well as the initials REGH in ornate letters. The blade has engraved near the guard "Filipinas Isla de Luzon" and on the other side (in what looks like a different hand) "Vigan P.I." This would suggest it is a Filipino officers army dagger (give its sheath is silver), possibly from the famed Tinio Brigade, which was under the command of General Manuel Tinio that was tasked with the defense of Vigan and the Ilocos region in 1899-1901.

One question - how common is it for these daggers to have silver sheaths (not just silver mounts)?

cheers, Michael

Sajen · 4th August 2013, 09:33 PM

Wow, what a great find Michael! Can't answer your question but surely it is from a high ranking person. Other more knowledge members could tell you maybe more. A pity that most of the silver wire at the handle is gone but it seems restorable. Please post pictures when you have received it. And when you ever get tired of it....

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 5th August 2013, 07:31 AM

I would say not common at all!

Sajen · 5th August 2013, 09:00 AM

Here you can see an other one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10723

Regards,

Detlef

Ferguson · 5th August 2013, 09:43 AM

That is stunning. Congratulations!
steve

carlos · 5th August 2013, 12:36 PM

Wow !! I just fall in love

what a Beautiful piece, this type of pieces are my temtation.
If some day you decide to sell it, please tell me ...

Best regards and thanks for posting
Carlos

Sajen · 5th August 2013, 01:45 PM

Here some other nice examples of this sort of dagger from old threads, hopefully the owners don't mind.

Sajen · 5th August 2013, 01:48 PM

Some more! Hope that one day I will own also one!

mdp10003 · 5th August 2013, 05:52 PM

Hi!

Thanks for the comments. Jose will be applying his restoration magic on the dagger when it arrives, so we will post more pictures after he has worked on it!

cheers, Michael

mdp10003 · 6th August 2013, 07:03 PM

Hi all!

I just got it and shipping it to Jose for restoration. It is actually relatively small - over-all length is just over 10 inches, and relatively light. Has anyone seen daggers this small from this era?

cheers, Michael

David · 7th August 2013, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdp10003

Has anyone seen daggers this small from this era?

Michael, i have seen a number of Moro gunongs this small from the same time period.

Battara · 7th August 2013, 03:50 AM

Like David I have seen some this small. In fact, some of the same period Luzono daggers pictured on this thread are the same size as yours.

Battara · 23rd August 2013, 12:26 AM

Finally here are pictures of the restored piece with close ups. I replaced the missing twisted silver wire, polished all of the silver mounts, and took off the rust off the blade.

Battara · 23rd August 2013, 12:28 AM

Notice the butt end of the huilt - it looks to me like a damaged sun face (a symbol used by the Katipunan and later 1st PI Republic).

Battara · 23rd August 2013, 12:29 AM

BTW - the Ilocos regional attribution would fit for this piece since the blade is Ilocano in form.

Sajen · 23rd August 2013, 03:32 PM

Like usual very good restore job and a very nice dagger!

4th August 2013, 08:08 PM	#1
mdp10003 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 28	First Philippine Republic dagger from Vigan Hi! I am posting pictures on something I just won in an auction. I still have to receive it, so I am posting pictures from the auctioneer. The over-all length is 12 inches, the sheath looks like it is silver with the Three Stars and Sun emblem, as well as the initials REGH in ornate letters. The blade has engraved near the guard "Filipinas Isla de Luzon" and on the other side (in what looks like a different hand) "Vigan P.I." This would suggest it is a Filipino officers army dagger (give its sheath is silver), possibly from the famed Tinio Brigade, which was under the command of General Manuel Tinio that was tasked with the defense of Vigan and the Ilocos region in 1899-1901. One question - how common is it for these daggers to have silver sheaths (not just silver mounts)? cheers, Michael Attached Images

5th August 2013, 09:00 AM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Here you can see an other one: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10723 Regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 5th August 2013 at 10:38 AM.

5th August 2013, 01:45 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Here some other nice examples of this sort of dagger from old threads, hopefully the owners don't mind. Attached Images

5th August 2013, 01:48 PM	#8
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Some more! Hope that one day I will own also one! Attached Images

6th August 2013, 07:03 PM	#10
mdp10003 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 28	small Hi all! I just got it and shipping it to Jose for restoration. It is actually relatively small - over-all length is just over 10 inches, and relatively light. Has anyone seen daggers this small from this era? cheers, Michael

4th August 2013, 09:33 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Wow, what a great find Michael! Can't answer your question but surely it is from a high ranking person. Other more knowledge members could tell you maybe more. A pity that most of the silver wire at the handle is gone but it seems restorable. Please post pictures when you have received it. And when you ever get tired of it.... Regards, Detlef

5th August 2013, 07:31 AM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	I would say not common at all!

5th August 2013, 09:43 AM	#5
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	That is stunning. Congratulations! steve

5th August 2013, 12:36 PM	#6
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	Wow !! I just fall in love what a Beautiful piece, this type of pieces are my temtation. If some day you decide to sell it, please tell me ... Best regards and thanks for posting Carlos

5th August 2013, 05:52 PM	#9
mdp10003 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 28	Hi! Thanks for the comments. Jose will be applying his restoration magic on the dagger when it arrives, so we will post more pictures after he has worked on it! cheers, Michael

7th August 2013, 03:50 AM	#12
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Like David I have seen some this small. In fact, some of the same period Luzono daggers pictured on this thread are the same size as yours.

23rd August 2013, 12:26 AM	#13
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Finally here are pictures of the restored piece with close ups. I replaced the missing twisted silver wire, polished all of the silver mounts, and took off the rust off the blade. Attached Images

23rd August 2013, 12:28 AM	#14
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	Notice the butt end of the huilt - it looks to me like a damaged sun face (a symbol used by the Katipunan and later 1st PI Republic). Attached Images

23rd August 2013, 12:29 AM	#15
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	BTW - the Ilocos regional attribution would fit for this piece since the blade is Ilocano in form.

23rd August 2013, 03:32 PM	#16
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Like usual very good restore job and a very nice dagger!