Seen at flea market

Helleri · 22nd October 2017, 05:40 AM

Guy wanted $50 for it. I didn't know what it was (beyond it being a sabre), the handle had damage/missing pieces, and it had no scabbard. So I passed. He did ask for me to make him an offer. But I don't think he would have gone for $10 And I'm not sure I'd have wanted it for even that little.

It did feel solidly constructed out of quality materials. The edge was unsharpened (had an edge grind but didn't appear to have ever been actually taken to combat ready). Sorry the pics aren't that great and that there aren't more of them. It was a really busy day. The gold colored emblem featured laurels or wheat (I forget exactly which) and read "PROOF".

Just going to link it because I've tried everything I know to scale how the the images display here and can't seem to.

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M ELEY · 22nd October 2017, 07:03 AM

Ahhh! What a tease! No pics!

RobertGuy · 22nd October 2017, 09:02 AM

It'a British 1827 pattern Rifles Officer Sword. The blade type indicates it was made after 1845. Can't tell the maker from the pictures. Any close up pictures of the blade etchings and proof slug might help. The maker or retailer was normally etched into the ricasso on the opposite side to the brass proof slug.

A. G. Maisey · 22nd October 2017, 01:50 PM

Elements will do it

Helleri · 22nd October 2017, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertGuy

It'a British 1827 pattern Rifles Officer Sword. The blade type indicates it was made after 1845. Can't tell the maker from the pictures. Any close up pictures of the blade etchings and proof slug might help. The maker or retailer was normally etched into the ricasso on the opposite side to the brass proof slug.

It had a thick even layer of oxidization on it in the area of the ricasso. Any marks beyond the slug would have taken some cream of tartar and a good deal of soft scrubbing to get down to. Did a mod fix my pics? If so thanks.

Also for future reference is it worth picking up things in this condition? Say for parts? Like if I were to have bought it for $30 or $40 could I have pieced it out for more than that?

kronckew · 22nd October 2017, 08:17 PM

a little tlc and elbow grease and that's a £100 ($150) sword. the surface rust will come off, and the underlying metal, unless badly pitted, which i don't see in the photo) seems sound. the grip could be patched, or left as is for the purists. i'd pay $20-30 for it any day...

Helleri · 24th October 2017, 02:59 AM

Sounds like a bit more work for $20-$30 (which I don't even know if the guy would take) than I want to put in for the return given all the other projects I have going atm. And not something I'm really into collecting myself either. Thanks for the information though.

theswordcollector · 3rd November 2017, 10:37 AM

Looks like a postal horn and crown from the reverse side of the guard even though we don't have a photo of the front. Could it be a WW1 BRITISH ARMY 1827 PAT RIFLE OFFICER'S SWORD POST OFFICE RIFLES 1914 - 1918?

kronckew · 3rd November 2017, 11:23 AM

other side would have looked similar to this rifle officer's sword:

22nd October 2017, 05:40 AM	#1
Helleri Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Chino, CA. Posts: 219	Seen at flea market Guy wanted $50 for it. I didn't know what it was (beyond it being a sabre), the handle had damage/missing pieces, and it had no scabbard. So I passed. He did ask for me to make him an offer. But I don't think he would have gone for $10 And I'm not sure I'd have wanted it for even that little. It did feel solidly constructed out of quality materials. The edge was unsharpened (had an edge grind but didn't appear to have ever been actually taken to combat ready). Sorry the pics aren't that great and that there aren't more of them. It was a really busy day. The gold colored emblem featured laurels or wheat (I forget exactly which) and read "PROOF". Just going to link it because I've tried everything I know to scale how the the images display here and can't seem to. . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 22nd October 2017 at 03:38 PM. Reason: pictures upload.

22nd October 2017, 01:50 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Elements will do it Attached Images

3rd November 2017, 10:37 AM	#8
theswordcollector Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Berlin Posts: 48	1827 PAT RIFLE OFFICER'S SWORD POST OFFICE Looks like a postal horn and crown from the reverse side of the guard even though we don't have a photo of the front. Could it be a WW1 BRITISH ARMY 1827 PAT RIFLE OFFICER'S SWORD POST OFFICE RIFLES 1914 - 1918?

3rd November 2017, 11:23 AM	#9
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,186	other side would have looked similar to this rifle officer's sword: Attached Images

22nd October 2017, 07:03 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,101	Ahhh! What a tease! No pics!

22nd October 2017, 09:02 AM	#3
RobertGuy Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 135	It'a British 1827 pattern Rifles Officer Sword. The blade type indicates it was made after 1845. Can't tell the maker from the pictures. Any close up pictures of the blade etchings and proof slug might help. The maker or retailer was normally etched into the ricasso on the opposite side to the brass proof slug.

22nd October 2017, 08:17 PM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,186	a little tlc and elbow grease and that's a £100 ($150) sword. the surface rust will come off, and the underlying metal, unless badly pitted, which i don't see in the photo) seems sound. the grip could be patched, or left as is for the purists. i'd pay $20-30 for it any day...

24th October 2017, 02:59 AM	#7
Helleri Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Chino, CA. Posts: 219	Sounds like a bit more work for $20-$30 (which I don't even know if the guy would take) than I want to put in for the return given all the other projects I have going atm. And not something I'm really into collecting myself either. Thanks for the information though.