Sabre for identification. Hungary, Moldavia?

Perkun · 16th October 2007, 03:56 AM

I wanted to present to you a sabre that has been on my wall for a while now, but I haven't been able to satisfactorily id it. The blade is chiseled with 2 strings of small simple flowers, mounts are silver with garnets and turquoise. Scabbard is wood covered in leather and covered in velvet. Blade seems to be older than the mounts Any ideas?

Robert · 16th October 2007, 04:07 AM

Perkun,
Could you please post a couple of pictures of the complete sabre showing the blade. Thanks.

Robert

Perkun · 16th October 2007, 04:31 AM

Sorry Robert, my present camera will not catch the balde details.

Perkun · 20th October 2007, 03:22 AM

No ideas?

Jamaz · 23rd October 2007, 06:22 PM

Very interesting is sabre on the right side of last picture. Is it original husar sabre?

Jim McDougall · 24th October 2007, 07:05 PM

Kind of surprised there are no responses or ideas on this from anybody, so I'll just suggest this interesting sword is of course mounted in Ottoman style hilt. The mounts overall suggest swords mounted in India (of the style Elgood notes from Hyderabad) in the 18th and 19th centuries for Arabian market), with the jewels however being atypical of these. It is important to note however that the drag on the chape of the scabbard suggests European influence that indicate this might have been produced in the 19th century for a European officer or some sort of presentation item.
The blade is a very good and quite old European cavalry blade which may be of 18th century, possibly even late 17th.
The cavalry sabre on the right does appear to be East European and of probably 18th century.

Hoping these comments might generate further ideas

16th October 2007, 03:56 AM	#1
Perkun Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 45	Sabre for identification. Hungary, Moldavia? I wanted to present to you a sabre that has been on my wall for a while now, but I haven't been able to satisfactorily id it. The blade is chiseled with 2 strings of small simple flowers, mounts are silver with garnets and turquoise. Scabbard is wood covered in leather and covered in velvet. Blade seems to be older than the mounts Any ideas? Attached Images Last edited by Perkun; 16th October 2007 at 04:53 AM.

16th October 2007, 04:07 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Perkun, Could you please post a couple of pictures of the complete sabre showing the blade. Thanks. Robert

16th October 2007, 04:31 AM	#3
Perkun Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 45	Sorry Robert, my present camera will not catch the balde details.

20th October 2007, 03:22 AM	#4
Perkun Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 45	No ideas?

23rd October 2007, 06:22 PM	#5
Jamaz Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lower Silesia, Poland Posts: 9	Very interesting is sabre on the right side of last picture. Is it original husar sabre?

24th October 2007, 07:05 PM	#6
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,945	Kind of surprised there are no responses or ideas on this from anybody, so I'll just suggest this interesting sword is of course mounted in Ottoman style hilt. The mounts overall suggest swords mounted in India (of the style Elgood notes from Hyderabad) in the 18th and 19th centuries for Arabian market), with the jewels however being atypical of these. It is important to note however that the drag on the chape of the scabbard suggests European influence that indicate this might have been produced in the 19th century for a European officer or some sort of presentation item. The blade is a very good and quite old European cavalry blade which may be of 18th century, possibly even late 17th. The cavalry sabre on the right does appear to be East European and of probably 18th century. Hoping these comments might generate further ideas