Japan, Korea, China thing?

Tim Simmons · 21st January 2021, 01:00 PM

Starting this again as the title might be more appealing to some well informed members being oriental specialists. As far as I have found this seems to be a form of " Shaku Baton "

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26601

Tim Simmons · 21st January 2021, 01:16 PM

Possibly a " tanbō " ?

Tim Simmons · 21st January 2021, 03:14 PM

The second paragraph after the list of names mentions the Octagon in Japanese martial arts so could relate to a tanbo?

https://tensokuryu.com/blog/2017/06/...gon-revisited/

AndreasM · 21st January 2021, 04:19 PM

Clubs of this form and shape do not exist in East Asia.

The earlier identification of Fiji seems rather correct. Not only for its form but also because of the inlay. Here is another example from that region:

Tim Simmons · 21st January 2021, 06:45 PM

Solved Fijian Ulas.

Peter Andeweg · 21st January 2021, 10:07 PM

You found it! A Fijian Ula, a type of throwing club. The bone or shell inlays are done later, often by collectors and counterfeiters to spice them up.
Patina-wise this example looks 19th century with 20/21th century bone inlay.

Tim Simmons · 22nd January 2021, 05:15 PM

Interesting to compere with some African status sticks. The inlay being a twentieth century addition in reality is only an unproven opinion.

21st January 2021, 01:00 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Japan, Korea, China thing? Starting this again as the title might be more appealing to some well informed members being oriental specialists. As far as I have found this seems to be a form of " Shaku Baton " http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=26601 Attached Images Last edited by Tim Simmons; 21st January 2021 at 05:28 PM.

21st January 2021, 04:19 PM	#4
AndreasM Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 9	Clubs of this form and shape do not exist in East Asia. The earlier identification of Fiji seems rather correct. Not only for its form but also because of the inlay. Here is another example from that region: Last edited by Lee; 22nd January 2021 at 03:05 PM. Reason: (Link to active retail page must unfortunately be deleted.

22nd January 2021, 05:15 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Interesting to compere with some African status sticks. The inlay being a twentieth century addition in reality is only an unproven opinion. Attached Images

21st January 2021, 01:16 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Possibly a " tanbō " ?

21st January 2021, 03:14 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	The second paragraph after the list of names mentions the Octagon in Japanese martial arts so could relate to a tanbo? https://tensokuryu.com/blog/2017/06/...gon-revisited/

21st January 2021, 06:45 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Solved Fijian Ulas.

21st January 2021, 10:07 PM	#6
Peter Andeweg Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Vlissingen, Netherlands Posts: 71	You found it! A Fijian Ula, a type of throwing club. The bone or shell inlays are done later, often by collectors and counterfeiters to spice them up. Patina-wise this example looks 19th century with 20/21th century bone inlay.