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7th March 2015, 05:11 PM
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Group of dagger and sword for ID
I have just bought this group of weapons few days ago and would like to know the origin and period.
I have recognized one in the excellent thread started by Vandoo the top one (Naga Dao with an unusual scabbard. Any comment on it will be welcome |
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7th March 2015, 05:21 PM
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more pics
more pics
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7th March 2015, 05:25 PM
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Top piece Naga , Asam India called doa. The others are African. A Somali dagger. The Monitor lizard skin scabbard and knife is very nice from the Fang of Gabon. The curved knife is Congo. I like the Fang knife. I have two Fang reliquary boxes, old ones. I will post pictures latter.
 I know these boxes are not weapons but I feel they have a place here as you show a fine Fang knife. These boxes help us understand some of Fang culture. In the UK and France every village has a memorial to the dead of two world wars and many societies erect thousands of memorial statues to their illustrious fore bares, we are all used to the veneration of this type of memorial. Now imagine being a nomad is the tropical jungle of Gabon moving from one place to another. So to keep your society with you as you move you put the relics of your fore bares in a box. I think there is something rather cool about that. The smaller box is the oldest and you can see it has been carried around for some time by the ware on the cane suspension rings. It is also interesting for still having the remains of applied veneration material. I have tried to show that it is 62cm high. Last edited by Tim Simmons; 7th March 2015 at 05:52 PM. |
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8th March 2015, 01:30 AM
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THE TOP ITEM LOOKS LIKE A CEREMONIAL DRUM FROM NEW GUINEA
SECOND ITEM A NAGA DAO SWORD AND SCABBARD THIRD A GILE SWORD CARRIED BY THE DANKIL PEOPLE FOUND IN DJBOUTI, ETHIOPIA AND SOMALIA. #4. A FANG KNIFE WITH LIZZARD SKIN SCABBARD #5. SCIMITAR (MAMBELI) CARRIED BY BOA TRIBE IN ZAIRE OR A SIMULAR SWORD CARRIED BY THE AZANDE TRIBE. THE NAGA SWORD, THE FANG KNIFE AND THE SCIMITAR ARE ESPECIALLY NICE. |
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8th March 2015, 03:15 AM
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Kachin not Naga?
I believe that the "Naga Dao" is in fact a Kachin Dao from Burma.
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8th March 2015, 09:44 AM
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Thank you Tim and VANDOO you bring me some good news :I bought this lot without knowledge and it seems that they are good ethnographic weapons.
Tim thank you to show those nice boxes made by Fang . Is it possible to have an estimation of age ? BEST cerjak |
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8th March 2015, 11:09 AM
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8th March 2015, 11:22 AM
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16th March 2015, 04:51 PM
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I found one similar to my Scimitar
said to be Sango / Yakoma / Ngbandi is it correct ? |
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16th March 2015, 05:35 PM
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Dfficult to say, yours could be also Makere or Meje but others will know exactly.
Regards, Detlef |
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