concave backside

Luc LEFEBVRE · 18th August 2008, 09:52 PM

A special big Kipinga, throwing knife from the Zande people with a concave backside to improve the flight.
Luc

Jim McDougall · 19th August 2008, 08:29 AM

What is so interesting about throwing knives is trying to understand just how they were used, and often misperceptions about actual use or not. In reading through Christopher Spring's "African Arms & Armour" (London, 1993) there is some very good discussion on these (p.80).
Apparantly the 'kpinga' was issued exclusively to members of warrior companies by the king or governor, thus these weapons were considered "mara ngbanga" (=court metal). There seems to have been a code of sorts in tribal combat, and these (the warrior typically had four) were used last, after spears were thrown. They could not be thrown until the warrior had declared, by shouting that he was doing so. It mentions bending the knife under his foot (presumably adjusting aerodynamics?) before the throw.

Interestingly, these kpinga were mounted inside the warriors shield on a round metal disc termed 'imgasi' (discussed by C.R.LaCae in 1926 in "Les Azande on Niam Niam", Bibliotheque Congo XVIII, Brussels).
While these were usually thrown vertically, it is known that occasionally the horizontal throw was used to circumvent the positioned shield of the opponent at lower level.

Just thought I would add some perspective to this most interesting weapon, and how it is said to have been used.

colin henshaw · 19th August 2008, 03:42 PM

Nice throwing knife, with a great shape. Congrats...

Tim Simmons · 26th August 2008, 07:58 PM

Love the hammer marks.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 26th August 2008, 09:47 PM

Yes a good work.
Luc

Luc LEFEBVRE · 26th August 2008, 10:02 PM

Others models from the MEG
http://www.ville-ge.ch/meg/index.php

Luc

Luc LEFEBVRE · 26th August 2008, 10:25 PM

http://southernsudan.prm.ox.ac.uk/de...998.341.311.2/

Luc

18th August 2008, 09:52 PM	#1
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	concave backside A special big Kipinga, throwing knife from the Zande people with a concave backside to improve the flight. Luc Attached Images

26th August 2008, 10:02 PM	#6
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Others models from the MEG http://www.ville-ge.ch/meg/index.php Luc Attached Images

26th August 2008, 10:25 PM	#7
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	TK in action http://southernsudan.prm.ox.ac.uk/de...998.341.311.2/ Luc Attached Images

19th August 2008, 08:29 AM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,823	What is so interesting about throwing knives is trying to understand just how they were used, and often misperceptions about actual use or not. In reading through Christopher Spring's "African Arms & Armour" (London, 1993) there is some very good discussion on these (p.80). Apparantly the 'kpinga' was issued exclusively to members of warrior companies by the king or governor, thus these weapons were considered "mara ngbanga" (=court metal). There seems to have been a code of sorts in tribal combat, and these (the warrior typically had four) were used last, after spears were thrown. They could not be thrown until the warrior had declared, by shouting that he was doing so. It mentions bending the knife under his foot (presumably adjusting aerodynamics?) before the throw. Interestingly, these kpinga were mounted inside the warriors shield on a round metal disc termed 'imgasi' (discussed by C.R.LaCae in 1926 in "Les Azande on Niam Niam", Bibliotheque Congo XVIII, Brussels). While these were usually thrown vertically, it is known that occasionally the horizontal throw was used to circumvent the positioned shield of the opponent at lower level. Just thought I would add some perspective to this most interesting weapon, and how it is said to have been used.

19th August 2008, 03:42 PM	#3
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	Nice throwing knife, with a great shape. Congrats...

26th August 2008, 07:58 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,751	Love the hammer marks.

26th August 2008, 09:47 PM	#5
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Yes a good work. Luc