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I walking to a friend of mine who comes from the mountains of Cebu. I have a Pinute that came from his region. It has wood two piece wood scabbard. The orginal was badley cracked so I made a copy of it. He said the blade is like shovel it was tool and for personal protection. I asked him why the blades only have a bevel on one side. He said that the blades are made for a person and they are made for someone who is right handed or left handed depending upon who the blade was made for. He said that the blade was carried with you when you went watch the Cock fights that why the wood scabbard has a roosters head as the shape. He also said that the beveled blade would serve as a draw knife around your farm. As an experiment being a skilled wood worker, I tried it as draw knife and it worked great. I was able to peel bark and shape very well with good control. Has anybody else hear of this with blades from Asian Pacific island groups?
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I have a PI blade that someone said might be for a left hand person. How do you tell which side the bevel is on as relates to the left or right hand of a person?
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Hi Bill, Practicality of use always means a bevel on the right hand side of a blade when facing away from oneself equals right handed use, left hand side equals left hand use. Ive seen it on some old custom blades from skandanavia & also on mandau & a couple of other unusual ethnographic blades rumured at the time to be from to be from Assam.
Theres nothing as sharp as a one sided bevel, There more easily damaged though! Spiral |
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3rd of 3 parts ... and i'm out of here!
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Then this one of mine is a lefty! http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=talibon Guess that makes it even more rare! One of my favorite pieces. Thanks again CharleS |
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Great info, thanks guys!
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![]() The lower one in post 4 is a right-handed example . The bevel is gentle and convex and starts at the spine unlike most ground bevels . ![]() The photo fools the eye . |
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![]() Can you please show us a pic of that talibong from another angle that shows that gentle convex bevel? Additionally and if it's not too much to ask, can you pls. show us also a close up of the pommel? Thanks in advance! ![]() |
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Your wish is my command .
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![]() Technically speaking thus, would that mean then that that talibong has a combination of flat grind and convex grind, and it's not a chisel grind after all, as explained here? ![]() |
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Hi Miguel,
Maybe chisel grind is not quite the word we're looking for here . The other (left) side of the blade is absolutely flat . The bevel on this blade looks to be forged in rather than ground ; would you agree ? |
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Yes indeed, chisel grind is not quite the word. Thanks again ... and I owe you a hot drink ![]() |
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Thank you Miguel ; buttered Rum will do nicely .
![]() ![]() So what do we call this edge then ? ![]() |
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![]() Hmm, I don't know what to call the edge. How about "right-handed half-convex forged blade"? But 'tis too long. I think you should be the one to name it because it's yours ![]() |
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C'mon now ... no one here's ever seen a Talibon blade like this ?!
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How about right inside-convex knife, or even shorter, right convex knife? ![]() I think somehow that rings a bell ![]() PS - Hello Rick, I think the honor is well deserved ![]() Sorry Miguel, I hit edit instead of quote .... ![]() ![]() Last edited by Rick; 28th January 2010 at 02:44 PM. |
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While some might differ, I know with the laraw (Taiwanese aboriginal headhunting/survival knife of the Atayal group) I have handled, their single-bevel blades are kind of like what migueldiaz is saying...
Here's a diagram I made. The flat side is angled to make the edge centered instead of to the side so to speak. Where-as others are to the side and others have a double bevel. ![]() |
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