Turkish Khanjar

Aurangzeb · 1st August 2005, 05:48 AM

Good Evening To All !

I have posted some pics of a recent acquisition, a Turkish Khanjar, the blade of which measures 10 inches in length. The dagger overall measures 16.5 inches. The hilt is made of aged walnut with 'mother-of-pearl' and brass inlay. The edge is not sharp and the sheath has a solid brass lion head at the base. I believe it to be of 20th century vintage, possibly meant more for ceremonial use instead of the tourist market. It exhibits much better workmanship than other Turkish tourist pieces from my collection. Does anyone have any idea of how this would typically be worn ? As always, any comments and help are most welcomed and appreciated ! Hope you enjoy the pics !

Mark....

Aurangzeb · 2nd August 2005, 06:38 AM

Bump!!!!

Aurangzeb · 7th August 2005, 03:46 AM

Does this mean that nobody knows anything about thus style of dagger, or how it was worn, or why there is arabic on a Turkish dagger????

Rick · 7th August 2005, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurangzeb

Does this mean that nobody knows anything about thus style of dagger, or how it was worn, or why there is arabic on a Turkish dagger????

I've got a feeling that it is a souvenir .

TVV · 8th August 2005, 03:03 PM

Aurangzeb, I am really sorry to appear in this thread only to confirm Andrew's suspicion, but I have personally seen those little khanjars sold by almost every souvenir shop in Turkey during my three visits to this country. There are some even in Bulgaria, offered to tourists in the Black Sea resorts. I do not know if it will make you feel any better, but my passion for edged weapons started with a similar tourist dagger bought in Turkey some ten years ago.

Aurangzeb · 9th August 2005, 02:45 AM

Hi all!

I still like this dagger a great deal as I stated before in my thread on my 5-fingers dagger I have an odd attraction to tourist daggers.( This one's new home will be with my silver omani khanjar on thye mantle to impress guests who don't know any better!)

erlikhan · 11th August 2005, 12:29 AM

These daggers are mass produced touristically in Gaziantep city. If you re asking about real usage in past, I havent seen any real antique dagger with such MOP decoration. MOP over wood is used anywhere possible like daggers, pistols, boxes etc. in this style. But the existence of dragon head on the tip is still lovely and exceptional compared to many similar,giving the item some historical smell.
regards

Andrew · 11th August 2005, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TVV

Aurangzeb, I am really sorry to appear in this thread only to confirm Andrew's suspicion,

Someone called my name?

Rick · 11th August 2005, 02:15 AM

I think it was a case of mistaken identity Andrew .

'Twas me , I think, he meant .

Aurangzeb · 12th August 2005, 12:29 AM

Hi all!

I don't know if I asked this already but whould this be worn on al long baldric through the loop over the shoulder or on a small loop like on kindjals, I just want to get my display of turkish weapons and stuff right. I still can't figure out why a Turkish dagger whould have arabic on the blade, maybe to mimic the Ottoman daggers? This is one of the better quality tourist pieces in my collection.

Rick · 12th August 2005, 02:53 AM

Hi Aurangzeb ,
I would think that this being a souvenir of a quite possibly non-existent exemplar of a Turkish Kanjar that it would not have been worn at all by a Turk .

Ergo there may be no known style of wear for this particular item .

Now I really don't mean to nag but have you acquired your copy of Stones Yet ?

An informed collector is an astute collector .

Aurangzeb · 12th August 2005, 05:38 AM

Hi Rick!

Ordered it yesterday, still waiting for delivery via "snail mail".

Rick · 12th August 2005, 03:07 PM

Good Man Aurangzeb !

You are going to love this book !

TVV · 14th August 2005, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Someone called my name?

Ooops, I am sorry, I meant Rick, of course, but I got confused for some reason. Will be more careful next time

1st August 2005, 05:48 AM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Turkish Khanjar Good Evening To All ! I have posted some pics of a recent acquisition, a Turkish Khanjar, the blade of which measures 10 inches in length. The dagger overall measures 16.5 inches. The hilt is made of aged walnut with 'mother-of-pearl' and brass inlay. The edge is not sharp and the sheath has a solid brass lion head at the base. I believe it to be of 20th century vintage, possibly meant more for ceremonial use instead of the tourist market. It exhibits much better workmanship than other Turkish tourist pieces from my collection. Does anyone have any idea of how this would typically be worn ? As always, any comments and help are most welcomed and appreciated ! Hope you enjoy the pics ! Mark.... Attached Images

2nd August 2005, 06:38 AM	#2
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Bump!!!!

7th August 2005, 03:46 AM	#3
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Does this mean that nobody knows anything about thus style of dagger, or how it was worn, or why there is arabic on a Turkish dagger????

8th August 2005, 03:03 PM	#5
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,625	Aurangzeb, I am really sorry to appear in this thread only to confirm Andrew's suspicion, but I have personally seen those little khanjars sold by almost every souvenir shop in Turkey during my three visits to this country. There are some even in Bulgaria, offered to tourists in the Black Sea resorts. I do not know if it will make you feel any better, but my passion for edged weapons started with a similar tourist dagger bought in Turkey some ten years ago.

9th August 2005, 02:45 AM	#6
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi all! I still like this dagger a great deal as I stated before in my thread on my 5-fingers dagger I have an odd attraction to tourist daggers.( This one's new home will be with my silver omani khanjar on thye mantle to impress guests who don't know any better!)

11th August 2005, 12:29 AM	#7
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	These daggers are mass produced touristically in Gaziantep city. If you re asking about real usage in past, I havent seen any real antique dagger with such MOP decoration. MOP over wood is used anywhere possible like daggers, pistols, boxes etc. in this style. But the existence of dragon head on the tip is still lovely and exceptional compared to many similar,giving the item some historical smell. regards

11th August 2005, 02:15 AM	#9
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	I think it was a case of mistaken identity Andrew . 'Twas me , I think, he meant .

12th August 2005, 12:29 AM	#10
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi all! I don't know if I asked this already but whould this be worn on al long baldric through the loop over the shoulder or on a small loop like on kindjals, I just want to get my display of turkish weapons and stuff right. I still can't figure out why a Turkish dagger whould have arabic on the blade, maybe to mimic the Ottoman daggers? This is one of the better quality tourist pieces in my collection.

12th August 2005, 02:53 AM	#11
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Hi Aurangzeb , I would think that this being a souvenir of a quite possibly non-existent exemplar of a Turkish Kanjar that it would not have been worn at all by a Turk . Ergo there may be no known style of wear for this particular item . Now I really don't mean to nag but have you acquired your copy of Stones Yet ? An informed collector is an astute collector .

12th August 2005, 05:38 AM	#12
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Hi Rick! Ordered it yesterday, still waiting for delivery via "snail mail".

12th August 2005, 03:07 PM	#13
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Good Man Aurangzeb ! You are going to love this book !