SUDANESE DAGGER FOR COMMENT

Flavio · 26th May 2005, 11:51 PM

Hello dear friends. Here is a sudanese dagger but have you more info about the specific area or the age? Thank you

ariel · 27th May 2005, 05:23 AM

I saw a similar one in the Leeds Armoury.
It's proper name is Loi-bo
Here is the pic of the label and a little bit of the blade. Sorry for the quality but I thought we need to know the proper name.

Lew · 27th May 2005, 04:01 PM

Hi Flavio

Nice dagger! Was this an Ebay purchase? I thought I saw one similar to it last month. Well I think it could be Hausig do to the shape of the hilt as far as age goes I would say early to mid 20th century? It seems to be very well made dagger with an exellent quality blade. Congrats!

Lew

Flavio · 27th May 2005, 04:17 PM

Hello Lew, thank you. Yes this is an Ebay purchase, but it's an old purchase (maybe a year ago). Anyway often I see daggers like this on ebay

Hal Siegel · 5th June 2005, 01:44 AM

A very nice dagger, Flavio.

I believe that the Holbein-ish t-grip shape of the grip indicates an origin from Cameroon rather than the Sudan. We had a discussion about this style of dagger on the "old" forum a year or so back, but I couldn't find the discussion quickly using the Archive search.

Here's a more recent (and more touristy!) version of a Cameroon dagger:

Flavio · 5th June 2005, 12:25 PM

Thank you very much Hal. Now i'm very curious to read this old thread. Could anyone help to find it?

Conogre · 7th June 2005, 07:10 AM

Honestly Hal, I think that original discussion was based largely upon incomplete information available at the time, and I'm fairly certain that the piece that started this thread is from the Sudan.
Many of the "burnt" pieces from Cameroon seem to be turning uo in more and more shapes not original to the area (including you're "hook bladed one ! **grin**) and often made out of wood that looks amazingly like rattan.... perhaps it's even possible that an enterprising individual imported some rattan to make up for the scarcitiy of native woods due to deforestation, due to it's straightness and comparatively light weight?
Mike

ariel · 7th June 2005, 07:40 AM

Maybe, Hal is onto something. Look at the blade segment close to the handle: it has triangular projections on both sides. They do remind Central/East African blades.

26th May 2005, 11:51 PM	#1
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	SUDANESE DAGGER FOR COMMENT Hello dear friends. Here is a sudanese dagger but have you more info about the specific area or the age? Thank you Attached Images

27th May 2005, 05:23 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I saw a similar one in the Leeds Armoury. It's proper name is Loi-bo Here is the pic of the label and a little bit of the blade. Sorry for the quality but I thought we need to know the proper name. Attached Images

27th May 2005, 04:01 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Hi Flavio Nice dagger! Was this an Ebay purchase? I thought I saw one similar to it last month. Well I think it could be Hausig do to the shape of the hilt as far as age goes I would say early to mid 20th century? It seems to be very well made dagger with an exellent quality blade. Congrats! Lew

27th May 2005, 04:17 PM	#4
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Hello Lew, thank you. Yes this is an Ebay purchase, but it's an old purchase (maybe a year ago). Anyway often I see daggers like this on ebay

5th June 2005, 01:44 AM	#5
Hal Siegel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 15	A very nice dagger, Flavio. I believe that the Holbein-ish t-grip shape of the grip indicates an origin from Cameroon rather than the Sudan. We had a discussion about this style of dagger on the "old" forum a year or so back, but I couldn't find the discussion quickly using the Archive search. Here's a more recent (and more touristy!) version of a Cameroon dagger:

5th June 2005, 12:25 PM	#6
Flavio Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Italia Posts: 1,243	Thank you very much Hal. Now i'm very curious to read this old thread. Could anyone help to find it?

7th June 2005, 07:10 AM	#7
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	Honestly Hal, I think that original discussion was based largely upon incomplete information available at the time, and I'm fairly certain that the piece that started this thread is from the Sudan. Many of the "burnt" pieces from Cameroon seem to be turning uo in more and more shapes not original to the area (including you're "hook bladed one ! grin) and often made out of wood that looks amazingly like rattan.... perhaps it's even possible that an enterprising individual imported some rattan to make up for the scarcitiy of native woods due to deforestation, due to it's straightness and comparatively light weight? Mike

7th June 2005, 07:40 AM	#8
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Maybe, Hal is onto something. Look at the blade segment close to the handle: it has triangular projections on both sides. They do remind Central/East African blades.