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The blade engraved with a stylized city gate and the grip covered with reptile skin.
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Field herpetology has been a hobby of mine since childhood. I have handled litterally thousands of reptiles and amphibians from all over the globe. Including some Uromastyx, and even a few Sudan plated lizards (animals that would come from the region your looking at for sword origin). Dozens of monitors as well (which are found there but also plenty of other places)...If that is reptile skin. The only thing I can think of that the area of the world your looking at would have access to. And that there would in-fact be a market for. That also has such neatly ordered scales, of that size, and form (relative uniformity, bead-like or worn down, plate-like), would be some species of monitor lizard.
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I think the blade may be European. The fuller is far too precise for Sudanese job.
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This is an example of kaskara probably from around WWI or post and most likely from Darfur. According to Briggs (1965, late XX, B, C) this same curious marking (Briggs terms it 'enigmatic' which we have used for it in recent years) was found on the blades of swords of several Tuareg chiefs in the Kaocen Revolt (1916-17).
In this conflict of Tuaregs vs. the colonial French and in the Air Mountains of Niger, these adherents of the Sanussiya Sufi rose against the French. These marks were found on the takoubas of Adembar, Rabidine and Raidera. It is interesting to note that Ali Dinar, the last sultan of Darfur was in these times also involved with intrigues against colonial occupation , and he as well was associated with the Sanusiyya Sufi. He was killed by British forces . While we do not yet know what this 'enigmatic' mark represents, and there have been many suggestions, it does seem quite possible it may have symbolic meaning in the Sanusiyya context. Regardless it is compelling that this mark occurring on takouba far to the west in the Sahara, also has been found on numerous kaskara as seen here, in the same location on the blade. It is believed the mark has been around since 1870s, but provenanced blades with the mark that early are not known as far as I have known. The grip covering is indeed monitor lizard of these Sudanese regions (Varanus Niloticus) and is found on many of these Nilotic arms. The blade does seem quite likely to be a Solingen 'blank' which has been engraved with this curious yet distinct marking, which suggests it is of the 1916-17 period in probably Darfur regions, and quite possibly involved in these very historic events. |
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Jim,
Very impressive! Google McDougall at his finest..... |
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As always Jim as summed things up very nicely. The blade is almost 100% a Solingen product likely from the mid to late 19th century. Is there any mark under langet? I would perhaps give a different view on the regional attribution based on the guard. As I recall the flat tips of the guard are more of a Sennar feature while the flared guard tips are more popular in Darfur. The mark itself seems to not occur in an Mahdist context or Omdurman with any regularity and as Jim rightly notes the fact that it crops up far to the west gives a good indication of the general region where it was popular. I realize this is at odds with the idea that the guard is from Sennar! In terms of dating it is always hard to be precise without a collection note, but I would agree with Jim that the first quarter of the 20th century is likely with the blade probably older. |
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Ariel, thank you so much for the kind words
![]() Iain, Im glad you came in on this, here is our 'enigmatic' mark once again. As you well note it is hard to formulate necessarily accurate dates and regional provenance when these swords were so often reassembled and refurbished in their long working lives. What is most fascinating is that the swords, composite or homogenous, bearing this distinct type of marking seem to reflect a much more complex system of Sanusiyya organization and insurgence in this period than otherwise realized. This is the very reason that these weapons are so key in studying history as they have become rather icons of it with their imbued clues. It still leaves us with trying to decipher what the marking is intended to represent, but we at least know it seems to have to do most likely with this faction of the Sufi Faith. |
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It was fun being able to add this information which once again shows us how these weapons can indeed tell us stories about their past. I am grateful to Cerjak for again sharing yet another intriguing sword we can learn from! |
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Jim and Ian
Many thanks forthis so well documented comments. There is nothing more to discover ,everything had been say about this sword ! It is great ! Best Jean-Luc |
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By the way did you have a chance to look at the area of the blade under the guard? I am really curious if there's a stamp or other mark there. Often there is! |
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Iain is right, with these weapons the stories never stop unfolding. I have swords I've had for nearly 40 years or more and still learning on them!
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Unfortunately I don't see any mark under the guard ,may be under the rust ? Also this mark, first of all I thought it was a city gate looking in the old post I found a similar drawing. best Cerjak |
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I believe the mark to be an abstract representation of an Ottoman tugra. It is oriented laterally.
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See the tughra below note the 3 parallel lines .
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I must have missed this thread. Anyway, here is another sword with the fabled "enigmatic" mark. Its hard to see in the photo taken in 1984 but is just under the langet. Trust me.
The sword is undated, but gifted to Judge al Shengeti c.1956 at Sudan's independence and in his collection Collection in the Univ. of Khartoum. Best, Ed |
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Ed,
Thanks for bringing this thread up again. I think it is one of the better examples on this Forum of how broad our members' collective knowledge of ethnographic arms can be. Wonderful information from Jim, Iain, and Ibrahiim. A mini-classic! Ian. |
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Oh I'm impressed!
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The three lines stand for the three horse tail standard used by the early Turkish chieftains. The movement of the wavy lines from East to West, symbolises the Turkish people's migration westwards. The small and large circular shapes symbolise the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea, with the sword of Islam overlaid on top of both symbolising the Sultans domination of these seas. |
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