caucasian

Rivkin · 28th June 2005, 11:11 PM

modern georgian "copies"

Rivkin · 28th June 2005, 11:12 PM

circassian weapons & armor. Interesting one of the sabres look like typical ordynka.

ariel · 28th June 2005, 11:31 PM

You are right!! The dreamy-eyed Adonis is sporting a real Ordynka!
The slightly off-line pommel, the "butterfly" scabbard ring plates and the short quillons are identical. Did this sword come from Lvov (Lvuv, Lemberg, Lviv), from the Crimea (Crimean Khanate was one of the origins of Polish-Lithuanian Tatars), or was it local?
Another day, another mystery.....

Battara · 29th June 2005, 01:57 AM

Did not know that chain maille was being made like this on a for sale basis. Very labor intensive. I'm working on making chain maille now for my Moro armour and it is not cost effective. I guess cost of labor is quite low over there.

Tim · 29th June 2005, 03:42 AM

Rivkin,

Where can I purchase newly made orriginal arms and armor like that?

Tim

Rivkin · 29th June 2005, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim

Rivkin,

Where can I purchase newly made orriginal arms and armor like that?

Tim

On high end side:

http://www.gotscha.nl/uk-home.htm

I know couple of other people but they mostly work with a mechanical damascus.

ham · 29th June 2005, 07:47 AM

Rivkin,

Some of the images you've posted above are from Astvatsaturyan, don't recognize the others however. Can you cite the books from which the others came-- i.e. those of the 2 djigits?

Thanks,

Ham

Aqtai · 29th June 2005, 04:29 PM

Good looking pieces of armour. Its nice to know that there are modern armourers out there who make authentic looking Oriental/Eastern European armours as well as the usual Western European stuff. The Kulah Khud style helmet looks particularly nice.

Thanks also for the photos and paintings.

B.I · 29th June 2005, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ham

Rivkin,

Some of the images you've posted above are from Astvatsaturyan, don't recognize the others however. Can you cite the books from which the others came-- i.e. those of the 2 djigits?

Thanks,

Ham

hi, i would love to know your source as well. i know the khevsur warriors photo is from the pitt rivers, but the others?
attached is another image from the same source.
regards

Rivkin · 30th June 2005, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ham

Rivkin,

Some of the images you've posted above are from Astvatsaturyan, don't recognize the others however. Can you cite the books from which the others came-- i.e. those of the 2 djigits?

Thanks,

Ham

Hmm, I specifically chose the ones, that _do_ not appear in Astvatsaturjan (all of them). I'm surprised I missed some.

They are from the catalogue of Russian State History museum, well most of them.
The painting I think is a part of Gagarin's cycle (he made pictures of all "caucasian" types).

28th June 2005, 11:11 PM	#1
Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	caucasian modern georgian "copies" Attached Images

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Rivkin Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 655	circassian weapons & armor. Interesting one of the sabres look like typical ordynka. Attached Images

28th June 2005, 11:31 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	You are right!! The dreamy-eyed Adonis is sporting a real Ordynka! The slightly off-line pommel, the "butterfly" scabbard ring plates and the short quillons are identical. Did this sword come from Lvov (Lvuv, Lemberg, Lviv), from the Crimea (Crimean Khanate was one of the origins of Polish-Lithuanian Tatars), or was it local? Another day, another mystery.....

29th June 2005, 01:57 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Did not know that chain maille was being made like this on a for sale basis. Very labor intensive. I'm working on making chain maille now for my Moro armour and it is not cost effective. I guess cost of labor is quite low over there.

29th June 2005, 03:42 AM	#5
Tim Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jackson twp., Ohio Posts: 14	Rivkin, Where can I purchase newly made orriginal arms and armor like that? Tim

29th June 2005, 07:47 AM	#7
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	Rivkin, Some of the images you've posted above are from Astvatsaturyan, don't recognize the others however. Can you cite the books from which the others came-- i.e. those of the 2 djigits? Thanks, Ham

29th June 2005, 04:29 PM	#8
Aqtai Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Merseyside, UK Posts: 222	Good looking pieces of armour. Its nice to know that there are modern armourers out there who make authentic looking Oriental/Eastern European armours as well as the usual Western European stuff. The Kulah Khud style helmet looks particularly nice. Thanks also for the photos and paintings.