Unusual Ngbaka throwing knife

Luc LEFEBVRE · 13th April 2007, 09:46 PM

This is an unusual shape for the classic Ngbaka throwing knife, the "wing" is not horizontal, it gives a nice look to this TK.
The blade is not engraved but covered with burned palm oil, like some others Congo knive.
Luc

Tim Simmons · 13th April 2007, 10:00 PM

Hi Luc, I am fascinated by these black and white weapons. There is a member with a black and white Naga? doa. I will search for the thread. Can you show a close up of the blade? I am not convinced the black is from boiled oil, more from the black iron scale developed in forging. This also stops rust. I can understand oil as a dressing, but how dose it make a hard black surface on the metal.

Lew · 13th April 2007, 10:10 PM

Tim

I will test this theory out by rubbing some oil on a piece of scrap steel and heating it up on my grill. Will let you know how it turns out.

Lew

Tim Simmons · 14th April 2007, 07:53 AM

I think the black is iron scale as in this example.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=naga
This is the only Asian weapon I have seen use the black as decoration. All the other I have seen come from Africa, Somali, Shona, Massai? and last but not least the Congo. There are many military knives that are black but I think that is for other reasons. I will post picks of a seme I have with some black as decoration.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 14th April 2007, 09:42 AM

Some close up.
Luc

Luc LEFEBVRE · 14th April 2007, 09:48 AM

Other blades with black surface.I think oil is used while forging at the end to protect from rust and some smiths use this black surface and work on it to decorate the blade.
Luc

13th April 2007, 09:46 PM	#1
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Unusual Ngbaka throwing knife This is an unusual shape for the classic Ngbaka throwing knife, the "wing" is not horizontal, it gives a nice look to this TK. The blade is not engraved but covered with burned palm oil, like some others Congo knive. Luc Attached Images

14th April 2007, 09:42 AM	#5
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Some close up. Luc Attached Images

14th April 2007, 09:48 AM	#6
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	blades with black surface Other blades with black surface.I think oil is used while forging at the end to protect from rust and some smiths use this black surface and work on it to decorate the blade. Luc Attached Images

13th April 2007, 10:00 PM	#2
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	Hi Luc, I am fascinated by these black and white weapons. There is a member with a black and white Naga? doa. I will search for the thread. Can you show a close up of the blade? I am not convinced the black is from boiled oil, more from the black iron scale developed in forging. This also stops rust. I can understand oil as a dressing, but how dose it make a hard black surface on the metal.

13th April 2007, 10:10 PM	#3
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Tim I will test this theory out by rubbing some oil on a piece of scrap steel and heating it up on my grill. Will let you know how it turns out. Lew

14th April 2007, 07:53 AM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,806	I think the black is iron scale as in this example. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...highlight=naga This is the only Asian weapon I have seen use the black as decoration. All the other I have seen come from Africa, Somali, Shona, Massai? and last but not least the Congo. There are many military knives that are black but I think that is for other reasons. I will post picks of a seme I have with some black as decoration.