AN XI Hussar sabre for comments

Skarts_ss · 21st January 2018, 08:08 PM

Hi all! This is my first Napoleonic sword. Very nice light and long blade. Does anyone know more about these sabres?

Skarts_ss · 21st January 2018, 08:11 PM

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canos · 22nd January 2018, 09:35 AM

Sabre Mle.: An IX ( about 1802 - 1803 )
Manufacturer on the back of the blade : "Mfture. nale. du Klingenthal Coulaux Frères ent."

Hallmarks:
On the blade: "M under gear" = J.J. Mouton (July 1798 - February 1809), 1st class controller and "LW framed by a string of pearls in the oval" = B.P.C Levasseur (March 1798 - September 1803).

A rare saber.

Best regards
Canos

canos · 22nd January 2018, 09:46 AM

After the revolution there were numerous models
specific to each troop. This variety led to many disadvantages in the production, supply and maintenance and repair. Division general Comte Jean Jacques Basilien GASSENDI, (* 18.12.1748 - + 12.12.1828) streamlined the design and created a new plan of weapons, starting in the year IX (1800) with the model An IX and subsequent successive improvements (year XI, year XIII ...).
Quickly showed the susceptibility to breakage of the model l'An IX. As a result, not only the vessel was strengthened slightly, but especially the vagina. The latter proved to be easily deformable, so could catch the saber in his vagina in case of a blow. The An XI model solves these problems at the expense of weight, making the saber heavier. The weight increases from about 1650 gr. (An IX) to about 2997 gr. (An XI and An XIII), ie about 81.6%!. The material thickness of a An IX was 0.95 mm compared to an An XI 2.4 mm!
Before 1802, only the name of the manufactory Klingenthal stands on it. Until 1805, before Klingenthal "Nationale", until 1814 then "Imperiale" and after 1814 "Royale". From 1807 also the date of manufacture is on the blade.
The blades were made in Klingenthal and partly mounted in Versailles (hammered in the main bar). Most of the sabers AN IX that still exist today are in sheaths of AN XI. An AN IX is extremely rare

Best regards
Canos

canos · 22nd January 2018, 09:57 AM

i'm sorry. I would say : scabbard !!!

Skarts_ss · 22nd January 2018, 10:43 AM

Wow!!! Canos thanks for all these info you are very informative.
Do we know how many of these copies were made?

canos · 22nd January 2018, 11:48 AM

An IX: Klingenthal: Versailles:

an 11 ( 23.sept.1802 /22 sept.1803 ) 6150 saber 3243 saber
an 12 ( " 1803 / " 1804 ) 5104 " 5251 "
an 13 ( " 1804 / " 1805 ) 2426 " 3016 "
an 14 ( " 1805 / 1. jan 1806 ) 400 " 600 "

Replaced scabbards an13: 1546

Best regards
Canos

canos · 22nd January 2018, 11:54 AM

23. Sept. 1802 - 31. Dez. 1820

26.326 saber An IX

157.830 saber An XI

Best regards
Canos

Kubur · 22nd January 2018, 12:44 PM

Hi

It's a very cool sabre.
The grip is typical from the Consulate period (after the revolution).
I'll post later an amazing website about these swords...
But i have to find the address...

Kubur

canos · 22nd January 2018, 02:06 PM

Sabres de cavalerie légère, dits à la chasseur ... - Old Swords

https://oldswords.com/.../Difference...20an%20IX%20et...

Best regards
Canos

canos · 22nd January 2018, 02:45 PM

Sorry.
Try on GOOGLE:

Sabres de cavalerie légére, dits à la chasseur.
Difference entre les Modèles de l'An IX & An XI.

Best regards
Canos

Kubur · 22nd January 2018, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi

It's a very cool sabre.
The grip is typical from the Consulate period (after the revolution).
I'll post later an amazing website about these swords...
But i have to find the address...

Kubur

As promised

http://www.sabresempire.com/2012/01/...modele-xi.html

canos · 22nd January 2018, 07:07 PM

https://oldswords.com/.../Difference...20an%20IX%20et...

Hotspur · 25th January 2018, 04:01 PM

A Link To The PDF At Oldswords Sabres de cavalerie légère, dits à la chasseur.Différence entre les Modèles de l'An IX & An XI

21st January 2018, 08:08 PM	#1
Skarts_ss Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47	AN XI Hussar sabre for comments Hi all! This is my first Napoleonic sword. Very nice light and long blade. Does anyone know more about these sabres? Attached Images

21st January 2018, 08:11 PM	#2
Skarts_ss Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47	manufacture markings .... Attached Images

22nd January 2018, 09:35 AM	#3
canos Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 28	( An XI ) - An iX Sabre Mle.: An IX ( about 1802 - 1803 ) Manufacturer on the back of the blade : "Mfture. nale. du Klingenthal Coulaux Frères ent." Hallmarks: On the blade: "M under gear" = J.J. Mouton (July 1798 - February 1809), 1st class controller and "LW framed by a string of pearls in the oval" = B.P.C Levasseur (March 1798 - September 1803). A rare saber. Best regards Canos

22nd January 2018, 09:46 AM	#4
canos Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 28	An IX History After the revolution there were numerous models specific to each troop. This variety led to many disadvantages in the production, supply and maintenance and repair. Division general Comte Jean Jacques Basilien GASSENDI, (* 18.12.1748 - + 12.12.1828) streamlined the design and created a new plan of weapons, starting in the year IX (1800) with the model An IX and subsequent successive improvements (year XI, year XIII ...). Quickly showed the susceptibility to breakage of the model l'An IX. As a result, not only the vessel was strengthened slightly, but especially the vagina. The latter proved to be easily deformable, so could catch the saber in his vagina in case of a blow. The An XI model solves these problems at the expense of weight, making the saber heavier. The weight increases from about 1650 gr. (An IX) to about 2997 gr. (An XI and An XIII), ie about 81.6%!. The material thickness of a An IX was 0.95 mm compared to an An XI 2.4 mm! Before 1802, only the name of the manufactory Klingenthal stands on it. Until 1805, before Klingenthal "Nationale", until 1814 then "Imperiale" and after 1814 "Royale". From 1807 also the date of manufacture is on the blade. The blades were made in Klingenthal and partly mounted in Versailles (hammered in the main bar). Most of the sabers AN IX that still exist today are in sheaths of AN XI. An AN IX is extremely rare Best regards Canos

22nd January 2018, 09:57 AM	#5
canos Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 28	scabbard i'm sorry. I would say : scabbard !!!

22nd January 2018, 10:43 AM	#6
Skarts_ss Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 47	Wow!!! Canos thanks for all these info you are very informative. Do we know how many of these copies were made?

22nd January 2018, 11:48 AM	#7
canos Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 28	Production An IX An IX: Klingenthal: Versailles: an 11 ( 23.sept.1802 /22 sept.1803 ) 6150 saber 3243 saber an 12 ( " 1803 / " 1804 ) 5104 " 5251 " an 13 ( " 1804 / " 1805 ) 2426 " 3016 " an 14 ( " 1805 / 1. jan 1806 ) 400 " 600 " Replaced scabbards an13: 1546 Best regards Canos

22nd January 2018, 11:54 AM	#8
canos Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 28	Total Production: 23. Sept. 1802 - 31. Dez. 1820 26.326 saber An IX 157.830 saber An XI Best regards Canos

22nd January 2018, 12:44 PM	#9
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi It's a very cool sabre. The grip is typical from the Consulate period (after the revolution). I'll post later an amazing website about these swords... But i have to find the address... Kubur

22nd January 2018, 02:06 PM	#10
canos Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 28	interesting article Sabres de cavalerie légère, dits à la chasseur ... - Old Swords https://oldswords.com/.../Difference...20an%20IX%20et... Best regards Canos

22nd January 2018, 02:45 PM	#11
canos Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 28	Article Sorry. Try on GOOGLE: Sabres de cavalerie légére, dits à la chasseur. Difference entre les Modèles de l'An IX & An XI. Best regards Canos

22nd January 2018, 07:07 PM	#13
canos Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 28	An IX https://oldswords.com/.../Difference...20an%20IX%20et... Last edited by canos; 22nd January 2018 at 07:09 PM. Reason: it does not work ...

25th January 2018, 04:01 PM	#14
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 498	A Link To The PDF At Oldswords Sabres de cavalerie légère, dits à la chasseur.Différence entre les Modèles de l'An IX & An XI