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Old 28th February 2017, 03:53 PM   #1
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All Varian pamor miring at Keris bugis
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Old 1st March 2017, 09:42 AM   #2
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Thanks a lot, nice examples!

Any more pics of these available? Pamor miring is quite rare in keris Bugis - thus, this is an exquisite lot for Sulawesi!

They all seem to have quite a bit of age (the selut and possibly hilt of the second from right may be more recent though).

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Old 1st March 2017, 06:20 PM   #3
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I agree with Kai's comments & compliments and would like to know if these blades are old or recent.
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Alameng and badik for discusions
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Old 4th March 2017, 05:57 AM   #6
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I agree with Kai's comments & compliments and would like to know if these blades are old or recent.
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Thanks Kai, if I uploaded a new Keris, I must say like that, but if I uploaded old antique Keris bugis rare, I must to say like that, hehehe
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Old 4th March 2017, 10:03 AM   #7
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Thanks Kai, if I uploaded a new Keris, I must say like that, but if I uploaded old antique Keris bugis rare, I must to say like that, hehehe
Hello La Pagaru,
In France your reply would be labelled as "from Normandy" or "may be yes, may be no"
And where are the new pics?
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Please don't upload images of alameng or batik to this forum for discussion. This forum is solely for discussion of keris. The Ethnographic Forum is the place to discuss those other blade forms. Thanks!
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Old 4th March 2017, 05:48 PM   #9
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Thanks Kai, if I uploaded a new Keris, I must say like that, but if I uploaded old antique Keris bugis rare, I must to say like that, hehehe
Well, you haven't said either way. If you don't know that is fine, but if you do know i would very much appreciate that you answer direct questions on the subject in a direct manner. Thanks!

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I just send picture from yasir Mahmud colection
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Keris bugis sapukala or sepokal PAMOR KURISSI the name of PAMOR miring in South sulawesi
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Yasir mAhmud have COLECTIONS Keris
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Old 5th March 2017, 02:08 PM   #16
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Old 5th March 2017, 04:22 PM   #17
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This is a Keris bugis parenringi, the Keris have a different PAMOR in 2 side , one with PAMOR KURISSI , one with PAMOR gantara
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Hello La Pagaru,
Thank you, very nice collection, I just notice that some blades have welding flaws and some pics are repeated...
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La Pagaru;

Who is yasir mahmud? are ALL the keris pictures you showed belong to him?

Mr Maisey;

You comment about 'beauty is in the eye of beholder' is very true... but can you elaborate ? do you think the pics shown by la pagaru are not good bugis examples in your opinion? I really value your opinion and since I'm trying to learn and collect bugis keris would be thankful if you can elaborate.
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Old 6th March 2017, 04:27 AM   #21
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Green, I would prefer not to comment further.
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Old 6th March 2017, 05:55 AM   #22
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La Pagaru, saya orang Surabaya, kalau butuh bantuan untuk terjemahan ke bahasa Inggris bisa saya bantu, tulis saja dan tag saya nanti saya terjemahkan agar member disini bisa lebih paham


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I wrote to La Pagaru just in case he needs help translating to English, I will help

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La Pagaru;

Who is yasir mahmud? are ALL the keris pictures you showed belong to him?

Mr Maisey;

You comment about 'beauty is in the eye of beholder' is very true... but can you elaborate ? do you think the pics shown by la pagaru are not good bugis examples in your opinion? I really value your opinion and since I'm trying to learn and collect bugis keris would be thankful if you can elaborate.
Yasir Mahmud is young collector pusaka ini Indonesia specially bugis pusaka!!
He have almost completely COLECTION pusaka bugis
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Who is yasir mahmud? are ALL the keris pictures you showed belong to him?

Mr Maisey;

You comment about 'beauty is in the eye of beholder' is very true... but can you elaborate ? do you think the pics shown by la pagaru are not good bugis examples in your opinion? I really value your opinion and since I'm trying to learn and collect bugis keris would be thankful if you can elaborate.
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Old 6th March 2017, 01:44 PM   #26
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Thanks La Pagaru... yasir mahmud is a 'young collector'...now i'm beginning to understand Mr Maisey's comment better! experience and expertise do shows!

A pity though that Alan prefers not to give his opinion because I'd love to learn more, as my untrained eyes think that some examples shown by la pagaru are quite splendid, but obviously Mr Maisey thinks otherwise. I do not want to fall into the trap of buying bugis keris that looks 'sweet' but of questionable merit in future as i can hardly afford to spend money unwisely anymore...

But I do respect Alan's decision if he chooses not to give his opinion further of course.
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Thanks La Pagaru... yasir mahmud is a 'young collector'...now i'm beginning to understand Mr Maisey's comment better! experience and expertise do shows!

A pity though that Alan prefers not to give his opinion because I'd love to learn more, as my untrained eyes think that some examples shown by la pagaru are quite splendid, but obviously Mr Maisey thinks otherwise. I do not want to fall into the trap of buying bugis keris that looks 'sweet' but of questionable merit in future as i can hardly afford to spend money unwisely anymore...

But I do respect Alan's decision if he chooses not to give his opinion further of course.
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If u mine I am upload a new Keris, u abslotly wrong!! U can talk in Indonesian and singapure how I am and how much my dedicate for bugise culture! My be u reading my book SENJATA PUSAKA BUGIS karya Abe Ubbe and friends including me!! U can find my name's in the book!! My real name is Andi Aries pratama!
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Old 6th March 2017, 02:32 PM   #28
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La paragu,

I have that book you mentioned and I love the kerises in it. Very2 beautiful , all of them!

Sorry, I do not understand what you wrote . Can you rewrite in Bahasa Indonesia. I can read Bahasa Indonesia .
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La paragu,

I have that book you mentioned and I love the kerises in it. Very2 beautiful , all of them!

Sorry, I do not understand what you wrote . Can you rewrite in Bahasa Indonesia. I can read Bahasa Indonesia .
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first of all I would like to apologize if I am unfavorable ingrish language. you might think that a dagger which I uploaded is a new kris !! but I'll bet my capacity as a researcher and culture lovers, especially Bugis Bugis heritage. You should ask my name among friends in Indonesia singapore and malaysia! At the book senjata pusaka bugis you can find my name, my real name is Andi Pratama Aries! in close BTime I will release my book titled senjata pusaka bugis Dan serumpunnyar. In among collectors Bugis kaminpunya a principle, namely, the old, intact, beautiful prestige became a reference for collecting an inheritance for the collection! I've uploaded some new keris in different forums please see and distinguish! Thank you in advance
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