Just for fun.

danny1976 · 22nd May 2011, 01:03 PM

One of the things i enjoy the most in collecting keris is trying to bring blade,s back in a reasonable condition .

Yesterday i did take some picture,s during staining some blade,s and thought it might be fun to show them here on the forum .
Of course comment and tips are very welcome , because i.m still learning and trying what will give the best results .

The method i used was the ''soaking '' method in realgar with lime .
i also use sometimes the brush method but the soaking is more easy to do more
blades in one time .

Photo 1 : my luxury washing tube

The blade are drying after cleaning
with detergent and lime .

Photo 2 : Drying and heating up after the first soak .

Photo 3/4 The pattern is coming up .

Photo 5 : Finished the soak and drying in the sun before oiling .

Result in the next post .

danny1976 · 22nd May 2011, 01:10 PM

And the result .

After a night drenched with WD 40.

You can see clearly the differences in color of both blade,s because
the using of material and the time when the were made.

Marcokeris · 22nd May 2011, 02:10 PM

Good work!

Have you used indonesian (china) warangan or realgar that is possibile to find in usual mineral shop?
When i used not indonesian pink/orange realgar but realgar buyed from local shop(probabily it came from Mexico, USA or Italy) a very little orange dust (really very very difficult to get off) remained always over the blade

With warangan never!!

danny1976 · 22nd May 2011, 02:37 PM

@ Marco.

I did use the ''normal'' orange realgar .
the problem with the orange dust i know , but i try to leave the piece,s of realgar out of the bath so no orange dust on the blades when the are finished.

Sajen · 22nd May 2011, 02:44 PM

Good result and nice old blades!

danny1976 · 22nd May 2011, 02:58 PM

@ Sajen.

Thanks , yes the blade,s are old and the are a gift to me from the daughter of the previous owner so even more special because of that

the blade with pamor batu lapak has a twisted part in the middle of the peksi , that is one of the things that always make me think why the did that on this blade ,in bali blades i did see it more often.

A. G. Maisey · 23rd May 2011, 01:42 AM

A twisted pesi assists in retention of the jejeran.

You've done a decent job on these blades Danny.

The largest single quantity of warangan that is in Indonesia is held by my nephew in Solo. This warangan came from India, and it is recognised that it is is not nearly as good as the warangan that the business that he now runs, had been selling during the previous 30 years. This earlier stock of warangan had probably come from China.

Because this business is an importer, it sold to other businesses and individuals in Central Jawa, Jakarta and Surabaya, and some of these businesses and people still have some of the old warangan.

I strongly suggest that if you can locate any of the warangan that came into Indonesia prior to about 5 years ago, you buy as much of it as you can afford. You will not be happy with the newer stuff.

A better solution than warangan ( realgar) is laboratory quality white arsenic ( arsenic trioxide) . Used correctly it gives a perfect job every time and is absolutely predictable. The only problem with it is in purchase because of government restrictions, but usually these can be overcome by obtaining the relevant certificate, in Australia this is referred to as a "Hazchem certificate" ( hazardous chemicals)

22nd May 2011, 01:03 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Just for fun. One of the things i enjoy the most in collecting keris is trying to bring blade,s back in a reasonable condition . Yesterday i did take some picture,s during staining some blade,s and thought it might be fun to show them here on the forum . Of course comment and tips are very welcome , because i.m still learning and trying what will give the best results . The method i used was the ''soaking '' method in realgar with lime . i also use sometimes the brush method but the soaking is more easy to do more blades in one time . Photo 1 : my luxury washing tube The blade are drying after cleaning with detergent and lime . Photo 2 : Drying and heating up after the first soak . Photo 3/4 The pattern is coming up . Photo 5 : Finished the soak and drying in the sun before oiling . Result in the next post . Attached Images Last edited by danny1976; 22nd May 2011 at 01:15 PM.

22nd May 2011, 01:10 PM	#2
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	And the result . After a night drenched with WD 40. You can see clearly the differences in color of both blade,s because the using of material and the time when the were made. Attached Images

22nd May 2011, 02:10 PM	#3
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Good work! Have you used indonesian (china) warangan or realgar that is possibile to find in usual mineral shop? When i used not indonesian pink/orange realgar but realgar buyed from local shop(probabily it came from Mexico, USA or Italy) a very little orange dust (really very very difficult to get off) remained always over the blade With warangan never!!

22nd May 2011, 02:37 PM	#4
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	@ Marco. I did use the ''normal'' orange realgar . the problem with the orange dust i know , but i try to leave the piece,s of realgar out of the bath so no orange dust on the blades when the are finished.

22nd May 2011, 02:44 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Good result and nice old blades!

22nd May 2011, 02:58 PM	#6
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	@ Sajen. Thanks , yes the blade,s are old and the are a gift to me from the daughter of the previous owner so even more special because of that the blade with pamor batu lapak has a twisted part in the middle of the peksi , that is one of the things that always make me think why the did that on this blade ,in bali blades i did see it more often.

23rd May 2011, 01:42 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	A twisted pesi assists in retention of the jejeran. You've done a decent job on these blades Danny. The largest single quantity of warangan that is in Indonesia is held by my nephew in Solo. This warangan came from India, and it is recognised that it is is not nearly as good as the warangan that the business that he now runs, had been selling during the previous 30 years. This earlier stock of warangan had probably come from China. Because this business is an importer, it sold to other businesses and individuals in Central Jawa, Jakarta and Surabaya, and some of these businesses and people still have some of the old warangan. I strongly suggest that if you can locate any of the warangan that came into Indonesia prior to about 5 years ago, you buy as much of it as you can afford. You will not be happy with the newer stuff. A better solution than warangan ( realgar) is laboratory quality white arsenic ( arsenic trioxide) . Used correctly it gives a perfect job every time and is absolutely predictable. The only problem with it is in purchase because of government restrictions, but usually these can be overcome by obtaining the relevant certificate, in Australia this is referred to as a "Hazchem certificate" ( hazardous chemicals)