Dagger ID and Arabic ? Translation request

erikscollectables · 2nd November 2010, 08:05 PM

The Dagger has been ID'd by Lew (thanks!) - I am still looking for help on the text in the blade. Regards, Erik

This dagger arrived in the mail today.

It came with some other items from an old Dutch collection of blades.
Mainly Indonesian but also some others (African and others) - collected before 1940. So far I have been able to buy 9 items.

This one is a riddle to me.
I have no idea what it is - so please help me here!
There seem to be markings on the blade and also an inscription (maybe upside down?)

All info welcome!

Regards, Erik

Lew · 2nd November 2010, 08:37 PM

Erik
Yours is a Sudanese arm dagger circa 1898 probably from Omdurman. Here is it's close cousin.

Lew

erikscollectables · 2nd November 2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lew

Erik
Yours is a Sudanese arm dagger circa 1898 probably from Omdurman. Here is it's close cousin.
Lew

Lew thank you very much for this info. The sheath on yours looks also great. Unfortunatley no sheaths were kept in this collection - alle blades come without a sheath....

Is this the type of weapon that was common in that period?

Regards, Erik

Lew · 2nd November 2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by erikscollectables

Lew thank you very much for this info. The sheath on yours looks also great. Unfortunatley no sheaths were kept in this collection - alle blades come without a sheath....

Is this the type of weapon that was common in that period?

Regards, Erik

Yes it was quite common but yours is of higher quality. These arm daggers are still being produced in the Sudan but are of crappy quality.

Battara · 3rd November 2010, 12:21 AM

Usually I am not into African, but both of your pieces are great examples!

erikscollectables · 3rd November 2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Usually I am not into African, but both of your pieces are great examples!

Me too - I limit the collection to North Sumatra even - this one sneaked in

Erik

Atlantia · 3rd November 2010, 11:33 PM

Both very posh examples! Seldom seen sadly. Thanks for sharing

Dom · 6th November 2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by erikscollectables

The Dagger has been ID'd by Lew (thanks!) - I am still looking for help on the text in the blade. Regards, Erik

Hi Erik

two beautifull daggers

one has the privilege of a dedicace ... in Arabic, and a date

MILK LAK SOLEIMAN either (like if the blacksmith was giving that dagger to his owner) it's YOUR OWN SOLEIMAN

1270 either 1853

best regards

à +

Dom

2nd November 2010, 08:05 PM	#1
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	Arabic Translation request (Dagger ID'd) The Dagger has been ID'd by Lew (thanks!) - I am still looking for help on the text in the blade. Regards, Erik This dagger arrived in the mail today. It came with some other items from an old Dutch collection of blades. Mainly Indonesian but also some others (African and others) - collected before 1940. So far I have been able to buy 9 items. This one is a riddle to me. I have no idea what it is - so please help me here! There seem to be markings on the blade and also an inscription (maybe upside down?) All info welcome! Regards, Erik Attached Images Last edited by erikscollectables; 3rd November 2010 at 10:08 AM.

2nd November 2010, 08:37 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Erik Yours is a Sudanese arm dagger circa 1898 probably from Omdurman. Here is it's close cousin. Lew Attached Images Last edited by Lew; 2nd November 2010 at 10:09 PM.

3rd November 2010, 12:21 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Usually I am not into African, but both of your pieces are great examples!

3rd November 2010, 11:33 PM	#7
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Both very posh examples! Seldom seen sadly. Thanks for sharing