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Dear Forumites,
I am lucky to get a new patrem from someone I knew well. But this patrem is quite 'unusual': the "kelengan" (all black) blade is bent a little bit, also the (Sumatera?) warangka. The ivory handle is tightly waxed. It is an iras blade, but with "gigir sapi" (?) in the middle of the blade. So not a "brojol", isn't it? The iron is very solid, cold and smooth.. Is it a Sumatranese patrem? Ganjawulung |
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Very nice patrem. Like me there are a couple of other formites that really appreciate these little gems
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I am taking special attention to patrems now, because of this forum. I saw that some forumites here have special attention to patrems. Then I found that patrem models, they are fascinating to me too... Ganjawulung |
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Good buy Pak ganjawulung. Very nice deadly little piece.
This is indeed from southern sumatra, Palembang keris. The sharp bend curve is unusual but not uncommon. Here we can see the fusion between mid Javanese and typical sumatran forging techniques. It is typical for sumatran keris to be quite thick as it is for practical use. The ivory hilt doesn't seems right (my personal opinion). You can have it change. To me this ivory looks like for badek or sewah.. ![]() I hope you can post 'as it is' picture and not edited. I would love to appreaciate more of this cute fellow. ![]() |
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Newsteel sums it well.
Lovely Palembang, Sumatra piece... cute but deadly. A few friends have similar pieces... ganja iras too... most appropriate is the palembang topeng hilt form. More of a sepokal or sapukal blade form. ![]() |
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Yep, that is a cutie.
![]() Welcome to the club of patrem lovers Ganja. ![]() |
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Hi Ganja, very nice piece!! Does it have a methuk (like jalak budo) rather than a mendak??
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Lemmy, when i lightened the pic in photoshop it looked to be a separate piece so i would imagine it is a mendak, which would be much more appropriate in this case anyway. But i am sure Ganja can tell us more accurately.
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The ivory handle more looks like badek handle. I think the first owner had mixed style: Sumatranese, but also Bugis (the blade is like sepukal, as Alamshah and Penangsang just said). And it has no methuk as jalak budo. For Lemmy and Newsteel, these are more pictures on this smaller keris... Thanks David, for encouraging me to "join" the "patrem community"... Ganjawulung |
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This very similar piece was collected in Tanjong Pinang, Riau. What struck me when I first saw the keris was the exaggerated daunan on the sampir, but overall very nicely balanced.
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Dear BlueErf and All,
I hope this newer collection of mine -- a Sumatran patrem -- dressed correctly. Someone from Sumatra had sent me this piece a couple days ago. Please regard too, the comparison with normal keris in Jogjanese dress... The Sumatran blade was heavily soaked with warangan, but I have cleaned it a bit with lemon. Are the parts of this keris matched with Palembang style? Ganjawulung |
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The hilt and selut, match Palembang style... but not the sheath, which is Malay. Your first and Bluerf sheath examples are Palembang. ![]() |
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