Old rifle with gold in barell

eftihis · 4th November 2021, 11:54 PM

This is a heavy, very old looking rifle. The shape looks european, the decoration seems islamic, the gold inlay unusuall, and the shape of the end of the berell reminds me ofguns from late 17th century. Any ideas?

David R · 5th November 2021, 01:09 AM

there was something of a fashion for high quality Turkish barrels in Austrian and German States rifles in the 18th century.

Ian · 5th November 2021, 01:34 PM

eftihis,

Let's see what replies you get here. If there is not a lot of information forthcoming, we might move it over to the European Armoury forum given David R's suggestion of an Austrian or German States origin.

Ian.

corrado26 · 5th November 2021, 03:58 PM

I don't think that this is a gun made for or in Germany or Austria. The barrel with this chracteristic backsight and the inforced muzzle is a typical turkish or osmanic one. Over that the decoration with round little blades of brass which are missing in the stock leaving their remaining holes was never used in Germany or Austria. This is IMHO a typical osmanic gun made about 1800 probably in South Italy or Brescia for the market in the Osmanic Empire.

kahnjar1 · 6th November 2021, 05:26 AM

The stock looks like a British sporting gun stock, but the barrel more resembles those on Indian Toradors especially the flared mouth. Maybe Indian or Afghani?
Just a guess really.
Stu

4th November 2021, 11:54 PM	#1
eftihis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chania Crete Greece Posts: 507	Old rifle with gold in barell This is a heavy, very old looking rifle. The shape looks european, the decoration seems islamic, the gold inlay unusuall, and the shape of the end of the berell reminds me ofguns from late 17th century. Any ideas? Attached Images

5th November 2021, 01:09 AM	#2
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	there was something of a fashion for high quality Turkish barrels in Austrian and German States rifles in the 18th century.

5th November 2021, 01:34 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	eftihis, Let's see what replies you get here. If there is not a lot of information forthcoming, we might move it over to the European Armoury forum given David R's suggestion of an Austrian or German States origin. Ian.

5th November 2021, 03:58 PM	#4
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	I don't think that this is a gun made for or in Germany or Austria. The barrel with this chracteristic backsight and the inforced muzzle is a typical turkish or osmanic one. Over that the decoration with round little blades of brass which are missing in the stock leaving their remaining holes was never used in Germany or Austria. This is IMHO a typical osmanic gun made about 1800 probably in South Italy or Brescia for the market in the Osmanic Empire.

6th November 2021, 05:26 AM	#5
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	The stock looks like a British sporting gun stock, but the barrel more resembles those on Indian Toradors especially the flared mouth. Maybe Indian or Afghani? Just a guess really. Stu