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Yesterday I started photographing and researching this flintlock hunting rifle (Jaeger). Could someone with a copy of Der Neue Stockel check and see if this maker is listed? Thanks!
HITLLNGER FN STOCKERAV STOCKERAV may be Stockerau, a Town in Austria. |
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Here is what Stoeckl says:
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Here are a few more shots. |
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This additional mark is on the stock under the patchbox cover.
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The sign ofer the "MA" might be a cannon. The "MA" could stand for "Miliär-Arsenal N°1240"
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I'd all so love to learn something about the unusual screwless lock mechanism.
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In any case, punching with M A 1 2 4 0 seems to be very recent. The alignment of the numbers is perfect. It looks like a unique punch and I don't think it's a punch from a modern military arsenal. Less than an old arsenal. Will it be a collection number? Affectionately |
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Easy to agree that the marks by the patch box are not those of an arsenal; this is a non military gun, but a hunting one, plate decoratins and all.
In my view also hardly a collection number; with such four digits, what kind of large collection would it be ? |
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Private weapons in public military collections are absolutely no rarity, In my long time as a member of a stately German military museum I know that it has been normal use in former times to donate all weapons of a dead officer to the military museum, as long as the widow or the children had no other application for them. As a donation these arms had to be inventarized as all other guns, swords etc. were they civilian or military And because of the four digits: The inventory numbers in our museum had six digits corrado26 Last edited by corrado26; 25th October 2019 at 03:09 PM. |
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A good point, Udo !
In such perspective, i know of a fine private collection that was donated to the local Oporto Military museu. Actually i know the person who was called to inventory it. Four digits were enough, though; this is a relatively small museum. |
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If as Corrado says above the letters and numbers there is a cannon, the letters M A would correspond to! Artillery Museum .... Affectionately |
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Dana,
This is a lovely and very interesting rifle! When I saw the "screwless lock, I wondered if it pre-or post dated Henry Nock's version. I still don't know, as I see the lock is a replacement. It is very well done, and the rifle is high quality work. Do you think the line we see in front of the lock plate was a "duffel cut" ? By this I mean an arm brought back by a returning serviceman after the war? (Many were chopped to fit in a duffle -bag) I find it a very delightful piece! If there was any chance of seeing the lock internals, I would be very pleased to do so. Congratulations, it is a wonderful piece! Richard. |
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En español Museo de aArtilleria (M A) Afectuosamente |
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This kind of lock, where all mechanical components are hidden at the inside of the lockplate may have been invented by Henry Nock but there was a Danish gunmaker C.W.Kyhl whose very similar contruction found use in the Danish cavalry pistol M 1807 - see foto. It would be very interesting to compare the inner side of the lock with the Danish lock made by Kyhl corrado26 |
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It really doesn't look like the stock was ever "chopped to fit in a duffle" ![]() |
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