JAVANESE PEDANG TRANSLATION REQUEST

asomotif · 27th June 2021, 08:59 AM

Good day,

A fellow collector bought this pedang and asked me if I could help translating it.
The state of the scabbard is bad, and the hilt is in relic state. But the blade is susprisignly well conserved with a very bold inscription on both sides.

Can someone read this ? One side is arabic and the oter side javanese I guess...

Thanks and best regards,
Willem

asomotif · 3rd July 2021, 02:13 PM

Bump !

Did I offend someone by posting the text upside down ?

Best regards,
Willem

asomotif · 21st July 2021, 03:25 PM

bump.

asomotif · 8th August 2021, 12:12 PM

one more bump.

A. G. Maisey · 8th August 2021, 10:39 PM

Willem, something like this inscription would, in my opinion, need the attention of somebody probably over the age of 80 or even 90, or an academic. I have very good contacts, who are educated men in their 50's, and who can read Hanacoraka when it is absolutely standard, but when I have requested readings of the approximate things that have been put on weapon blades these men have invariably sought out much older people who finish up guessing the intended meaning.

At the moment the whole of Indonesia is in a terrible mess with covid. The possibility of sending something like this inscription for a reading no longer exists. The people who might be able to read it have survival on their minds.

kwiatek · 9th August 2021, 02:48 PM

The inscriptions are in Arabic.

The first is

ان فتحنا[لك] فتحا مبينا

'Indeed We have granted you a clear conquest' (Qur'an 48:1)

The second is the shahada or profession of faith

لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله

'There is no god but God, Muhammad is God's Messenger'

27th June 2021, 08:59 AM	#1
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	JAVANESE PEDANG TRANSLATION REQUEST Good day, A fellow collector bought this pedang and asked me if I could help translating it. The state of the scabbard is bad, and the hilt is in relic state. But the blade is susprisignly well conserved with a very bold inscription on both sides. Can someone read this ? One side is arabic and the oter side javanese I guess... Thanks and best regards, Willem Attached Images Last edited by asomotif; 27th June 2021 at 09:00 AM. Reason: forgot something

3rd July 2021, 02:13 PM	#2
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	Bump ! Did I offend someone by posting the text upside down ? Best regards, Willem

21st July 2021, 03:25 PM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	bump.

8th August 2021, 12:12 PM	#4
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	one more bump.

8th August 2021, 10:39 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,876	Willem, something like this inscription would, in my opinion, need the attention of somebody probably over the age of 80 or even 90, or an academic. I have very good contacts, who are educated men in their 50's, and who can read Hanacoraka when it is absolutely standard, but when I have requested readings of the approximate things that have been put on weapon blades these men have invariably sought out much older people who finish up guessing the intended meaning. At the moment the whole of Indonesia is in a terrible mess with covid. The possibility of sending something like this inscription for a reading no longer exists. The people who might be able to read it have survival on their minds.

9th August 2021, 02:48 PM	#6
kwiatek Member Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 153	The inscriptions are in Arabic. The first is ان فتحنا[لك] فتحا مبينا 'Indeed We have granted you a clear conquest' (Qur'an 48:1) The second is the shahada or profession of faith لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله 'There is no god but God, Muhammad is God's Messenger'