Panay Bukidnon Talibung?

VVV · 21st April 2013, 07:32 PM

Even if the nose is not as big as usual I suspect that this is a Talibung from the Panay Bukidnon, ex-the "wild ones".
Is this correct and how long do you think the original nose was?

Michael

Battara · 21st April 2013, 08:46 PM

Yes this is a Panay taribon. The nose was a little longer but not by much. I will study this to see how much longer and get back to you.

VVV · 21st April 2013, 09:46 PM

Thanks Jose,

It resembles one I have with a silver hilt but that one also has a lost nose tip.

Michael

Sajen · 21st April 2013, 09:56 PM

Hello Michael,

nice Panay taribon!

I also don't think that the nose was much longer judging by the pictures you have posted.

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 22nd April 2013, 01:23 AM

Oh yes, one more thing - I think there was a long ferrule or collar of brass or silver right above the disc guard.

ibeam · 22nd April 2013, 08:41 AM

Looks like a sanduko to me...what is a taribon??

VVV · 22nd April 2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ibeam

Looks like a sanduko to me...what is a taribon??

My impression is that it is another spelling of a talibong/talibon/talibung etc.

Michael

Spunjer · 22nd April 2013, 02:47 PM

Taribung, or Taribong, with a g at the end. from my understanding, taribungs is the term used in Antique province. it would be nice if nacho can chime in.

Battara · 23rd April 2013, 01:17 AM

I base my information on Nacho and Migueldiaz:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=long+nose

Spunjer · 23rd April 2013, 02:40 AM

Thanks for that link.. although i don't see the term Taribon???
I did forgot to mentioned Aklan as well (again, thanks to your lInk, jose); another province where these types of handle was popular.

Battara · 23rd April 2013, 04:53 AM

My spelling mistake - it is taribong.

nacho · 23rd April 2013, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

Taribung, or Taribong, with a g at the end. from my understanding, taribungs is the term used in Antique province. it would be nice if nacho can chime in.

You are all correct. It depends on which part of Panay you are in. The Panay Bukidnons live in the central mountains of Panay. There are many dialects. For example, "kinaray-a" has sharper "r" on the words. In some towns of Iloilo, same words but using "L" in place of "r". Hence, talibong/taribong. Same with "u" and "o". Talibong/talibung.

So a Panay bukidnon may carry either a talibong, a talibung, a taribung, or a taribong depending on whether he goes down on the Aklan, Capiz, Antique or Iloilo side of the mountain. If he bumps into someone from Manila, the Manileneo will say he has a talibon.

Sanduko is a more specialized term used by the Panay Bukidnons themselves. We gathered this when Miguel Diaz and I interviewed them at Museo Iloilo a few years ago.

Bangkaya · 28th April 2013, 02:15 AM

Talibung/talibong is always spelled with an "L." Only an outsider with spell it with an "R." It's just that most people who don't speak either Kinaray-a or Akeanon would not understand their peculiar dipthong and confuse the "L" and "R" sounds.

Nice Sulod piece, definitely highland. It's interesting in that it has more Ilonggo influence than Akeanon or Atikenyo in regards to the hilt, however the short bakatong blade is more Capizinio.

Regards,
Bangkaya

21st April 2013, 07:32 PM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Panay Bukidnon Talibung? Even if the nose is not as big as usual I suspect that this is a Talibung from the Panay Bukidnon, ex-the "wild ones". Is this correct and how long do you think the original nose was? Michael Attached Images

21st April 2013, 08:46 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Yes this is a Panay taribon. The nose was a little longer but not by much. I will study this to see how much longer and get back to you.

21st April 2013, 09:46 PM	#3
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Thanks Jose, It resembles one I have with a silver hilt but that one also has a lost nose tip. Michael

21st April 2013, 09:56 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	Hello Michael, nice Panay taribon! I also don't think that the nose was much longer judging by the pictures you have posted. Regards, Detlef

22nd April 2013, 01:23 AM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	Oh yes, one more thing - I think there was a long ferrule or collar of brass or silver right above the disc guard.

22nd April 2013, 08:41 AM	#6
ibeam Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 134	Looks like a sanduko to me...what is a taribon??

22nd April 2013, 02:47 PM	#8
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Taribung, or Taribong, with a g at the end. from my understanding, taribungs is the term used in Antique province. it would be nice if nacho can chime in.

23rd April 2013, 01:17 AM	#9
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	I base my information on Nacho and Migueldiaz: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ight=long+nose

23rd April 2013, 02:40 AM	#10
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	Thanks for that link.. although i don't see the term Taribon??? I did forgot to mentioned Aklan as well (again, thanks to your lInk, jose); another province where these types of handle was popular.

23rd April 2013, 04:53 AM	#11
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	My spelling mistake - it is taribong.

28th April 2013, 02:15 AM	#13
Bangkaya Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 38	Talibung/talibong is always spelled with an "L." Only an outsider with spell it with an "R." It's just that most people who don't speak either Kinaray-a or Akeanon would not understand their peculiar dipthong and confuse the "L" and "R" sounds. Nice Sulod piece, definitely highland. It's interesting in that it has more Ilonggo influence than Akeanon or Atikenyo in regards to the hilt, however the short bakatong blade is more Capizinio. Regards, Bangkaya