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Hullo everybody!
![]() Thought I'd take these pix and share, before I clean them and put them away. Apologies for the quality. I got a bit exasperated as I couldn't get the camera to disengage the flash and I was running out of time. TOP: Name: Laksamana Inong Balee Type: Rintjong Meupoetjok Oelee Lapan Sagoe c1755 BOTTOM: Name: Iboe Prboe Type: Rintjong Siwaih c1850 Enjoy! Best, P.S. I tried to swap the photos' order; failed dismally! P.P.S. Finally succeeded! ![]() Last edited by Amuk Murugul; 26th October 2015 at 06:41 AM. Reason: Attempted to change order of photos |
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Thank you so much! I love rankings (but have only one
![]() 4 questions: a. To which one does the scabbard belong? b. At the end of the wood handled one, is that brass or gold of some kind? c. In general what are the metals used in both of these - I see silver, suassa, and... (?) d. Finally, where does each one originate? |
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Hello Jose,
the scabbard is from a keris Gayo. Pics would be great, too! ![]() The third color is most likely gold; I have a modest Batak example with brass hilt and silver sleeve. Typical examples have the octagonal lapan sagu/sagi hilt covered in suassa or gold, often with gold decorations at the base and inside the notched pommel. Regards, Kai |
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Hullo AM!
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How old would you estimate this variant lapan sagu hilt to be? Any idea of provenance and origin? Also a neat sewar/siwaih! Looks Gayo to me, indeed. Quote:
Regards, Kai |
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I was thinking that that was a gayo sewar!
Is the other truly a rencong? |
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Hullo everybody!
![]() In my initial post: "Type: Rintjong Meupoetjok Oelee Lapan Sagoe c1755”, should be: Rintjong Meupoetjok Oelee Toempang Beunteueng Kelah Lapan Sagoe c1755. Apologies. Best, Last edited by Amuk Murugul; 3rd November 2015 at 06:47 AM. Reason: spelling correction + added info |
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Hullo everybody!
![]() I don’t normally revisit a post unless it is to edit/add or I’m expecting a response. So, apologies for my late response. Battara: a. The sheath belongs to the siwaih. It wasn’t meant to be in the pix, but it was the closest thing to me to prop up the blades thus reducing shadow. b. The cap on the top of the handle is Atjeh gold (18K). c. Materials are: silver, suasa (<50% gold with copper alloy, mostly) and Atjeh gold. d. As far as I’m concerned, the siwaih is from Gajo and the meuputjok from outside Atjeh. kai: - In answer to your first question, the meupoetjok: c.1755 (also see my reply to Battara). I am satisfied with their origins. - I follow a particular Atjeh protocol whereby all such items come under one ‘umbrella’, reuntjong/rintjong: reuntjong=particular term rintjong=general term rencong=Bahasa term Best, |
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Thank you for your elaborations!
Would you please post a picture of the full scabbard? |
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