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My new interest in african weapons let give me a careful bid to this sword: http://www.ebay.com/itm/african-lafr...vip=true&rt=nc
The sword is 64 cm long, so I would call it sword. Or is it still a dagger? You know, I know nearly nothing about african weapons, so all informations I can get about this sword (fighting/ceremonial ?, age, ethnic group) are very welcome. Do you would clean carefully blade and copper binding at the handle? Thank you very much, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 13th January 2013 at 08:51 PM. |
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I HAVE VERY LITTLE KNOWLEGE ON THESE BUT WILL ADD WHAT LITTLE I CAN UNTIL THOSE WITH MORE KNOWLEGE CAN CONTRIBUTE. I CONSIDER THESE MORE OF A SHORT SWORD( TOO BIG FOR A DAGGER AND TOO SHORT FOR A PROPER SWORD). I WOULD JUST OIL THE BLADE AND PERHAPS THE WOOD AND LEAVE THE COPPER AS IS. THIS IS A NICE EXAMPLE AND THE WORKMANSHIP ON THE BLADE VERY GOOD. THE WOOD HANDLES ARE PLAIN AS USUAL THE COPPER BEING A NICE TOUCH AS WELL AS REINFORCING THE GRIP (SORT OF LIKE HAVING A FERRULE TO KEEP THE WOOD FROM SPLITTING IN THE MIDDLE) WHEN NEW OR UNUSED THESE OFTEN HAVE A BLACK FINISH WHICH IS TYPICAL FOR THESE AFRICAN IRON BLADES SO UNLESS THERE IS THICK ACTIVE BROWN RUST A GOOD OILING SHOULD DO. AS TO AGE NO GUESSES BUT IT LOOKS GOOD TO ME.
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Thank you Barry, I have had already the feeling that nobody will comment!
![]() ![]() Have done some research in the meanwhile and found this two threads: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1779 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3355 Not easy, because "boa" is to short for a search. ![]() Hope for the age that my one have the same age as the shown examples. Regards, Detlef |
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I estimate its age around 1930 perhaps 1940...Boa's from 1900 or older are rare. |
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I WAS THINKING OF THE NORMAL FORM OF THIS SWORD AS PICTURED IN THE EXAMPLES IN THE TWO OTHER THREADS. YOUR EXAMPLE IS A VARIATION OF WHAT IS USUALLY SEEN SO PERHAPS THE AFRICAN COLLECTORS CAN COMMENT ON THIS AND GIVE YOU A SUB-TRIBE, LOCATION OR TIME FRAME BASED ON THIS DIFFERENCE. GOOD LUCK
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Acc. to M. Zirngiblīs book Panga na visu this nice sword has signs of Boa, Angba and Bandia on one side, but also of Kango, Benge Bati (?)
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thank you! The price was indeed a good one! ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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Regards, Detlef |
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Hi Sajen, here are the relevant pictures from the book panga na visu
Regards, Martin |
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Hello Martin,
thank you for posting. Just have ordered the book. Regards, Detlef |
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Have the boa sword received and I really like it. I am a little bit surprised that the blade is so thin but maybe I am fastidious from my Indonesian and Philippine swords. Anyway, the blade is well forged and the handle have a great old patina. I have cleaned the blade since there was some surface corrosion. Here some pictures.
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Really nice, posts like this are pushing me towards starting collecting some Congo pieces as well. The artistry and variation is fascinating.
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BTW, just received "panga na visu", great book, a "must have" for collectors of african weapons. Regards, Detlef |
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