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16th December 2023, 10:39 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Cibubur, bekasi, Indonesia
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Newest acquisition
Recently i had the opportunity to get this dutch klewang with the marking 'Hembrug'. It also has an additional marking and a little plate stating 'P.A.M. 1281' , see http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...6&postcount=11 .
wish you all a nice weekend |
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16th December 2023, 02:02 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Leiden, NL
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Interesting decorations on the scabbard, haven't seen that before. Do those have some sort of significance?
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16th December 2023, 03:59 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Black Forest, Germany
Posts: 1,204
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The P.A.M. 1281-marking is probably a museums identification badge, the A.M. eventually for Military Mueum
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16th December 2023, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Route 66
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Udo you are a master of the esoterica of these weapons!! |
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16th December 2023, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Black Forest, Germany
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No wonder, I spent many long years in a military museum and know how museums label their inventory
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16th December 2023, 09:31 PM
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Vikingsword Staff
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: The Aussie Bush
Posts: 4,200
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Udo,
You may well be correct. However, I've seen similar plates refer to a particular unit and the individual sword number within that unit. Each person issued one of these swords had a numbered weapon. Many different groups were issued with these swords, including some police units, but not all used numbered examples. I'm on vacation at present, but when I get back I will check the book on Klewang and see if that abbreviation is mentioned. The crown over "Z" mark is likely an inspector's mark, which may help pin down the year of manufacture. Ian |
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3rd April 2024, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Kytlice, Czech Republic
Posts: 19
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Messing plate P.A.M. 1281
The P.A.M. on the messing plate is for a klewang belonging to the Field-police of Bondowoso and Djember (note: This is Dutch spelling used in 1935 so it maybe named different now) the number is the weapon number within that unit. As far as I know this information is in Dutch only. In a later post I will try to translate it.
Kind regards, Ron |
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