Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Ethnographic Weapons
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 29th November 2019, 05:56 PM   #1
Kubur
Member
 
Kubur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,145
Default Fokos, Nadziak,Czekan, Obuszek

Hi Guys,

It's not a fokos, but what is this?
Is it a Nadziak,Czekan, Obuszek??
Not mine but I'm just curious to know your opinion.
In Buttin he calls that Russian war axe...
Could it be Ottoman with the green velvet?

Kubur
Attached Images
   
Kubur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th November 2019, 06:08 PM   #2
kronckew
Member
 
kronckew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,184
Default

Looks like a Polish/Hungarian noble's war axe or Obuzek/Chekan.

Dimensions?

My similar Obuzek:
Attached Images
 

Last edited by kronckew; 29th November 2019 at 06:26 PM.
kronckew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th November 2019, 07:38 PM   #3
Kubur
Member
 
Kubur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 2,145
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kronckew
Looks like a Polish/Hungarian noble's war axe or Obuzek/Chekan.

Dimensions?

My similar Obuzek:
Thanks
I read your posts and it seems that you like this kind of things...
So first you confirm that it has nothing to do with the walking shepperd axes or fokos? Then there is no chance to be Russian or Turkish Ottoman?
Look at the shaft and the tombak...

Kubur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th November 2019, 08:28 PM   #4
Battara
EAAF Staff
 
Battara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 7,226
Default

Looks like it has a wootz blade.
Battara is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th November 2019, 08:40 PM   #5
kronckew
Member
 
kronckew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Room 101, Glos. UK
Posts: 4,184
Default

Smeone once suggested to me mine may have once had a decorative cover of velvet. the bottom end of yours does not look like a walking stick end. It appears to be too short to be a walking stick, (fokos or ciupaga). the Hugarian/Polish/Russian areas fluctuated wildly back then, so it could be Russian I suppose. How long is it? I'd expect a walking stick/shepherd's axe cane to be in the range of 30-40 inches (76-101 cm.)with most in the upper half of that range. Could be wootz or bulat, could just be corrosion. would need a polish & etch to corroberate. that test may detract from the value...
kronckew is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29th November 2019, 11:22 PM   #6
Ren Ren
Member
 
Ren Ren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Russia, Moscow
Posts: 374
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubur
So first you confirm that it has nothing to do with the walking shepperd axes or fokos? Then there is no chance to be Russian or Turkish Ottoman?
I doubt that this subject can be Russian. Only if to the Transcarpathian Rusyns, perhaps. It is more likely that this is one of the types of Hungarian fokos. https://mek.oszk.hu/02100/02115/html/2-384.html If I correctly understood the translation from Hungarian into Russian made by Google, at the end of the 19th century such hatchets were an obligatory symbol at weddings. I like that chance
Attached Images
 
Ren Ren is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.