New arms museulogic nucleus in Portugal - Part three

fernando · 10th October 2009, 12:15 AM

Hi Norman,
That's the artillery,

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fernando · 10th October 2009, 12:17 AM

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Matchlock · 10th October 2009, 10:55 AM

Hi Fernando,

Exzellent images, thank you so much.

From top:

pics 1-4: a wrought iron haquebut with hexagonal barrel of shifting sections, ca. 1460

- pic 5, from top:
- a composite German matchlock haquebut, the stock only ca. 1540 and sold Tom Del Mar, Dec 15, 2004, from Frondsberg Castle, Styria; the barrel a dummy, the lock plate and match holder inadequate modern replacements in the shape of ca. 1650
- two 18th century matchlock guns, both probably from Malaysia

- pic 6: lock detail of the latter

- pic 7: a very rare South German snap tinder lock haquebut, ca. 1530, the wrought iron barrel fitted with originally tubular backsight (the upper plate now missing), the lock mechanism with lateral push button trigger partly imbedded in the stock, only the tinder holder mounted on a small plate

- pic 8: a very unusual revolving cylinder matchlock gun, most probably India, 18th-19th century, the serpentine presumably a modern replacement

- pic 9: detail of the buttstock double scroll of the Malaysian matchlock gun illustrated in pic 5

- pic 10: lock detail of the first gun in pic 5

- pic 11: lock detail of the Malysian matchlock from pics 5 and 9

- pic 12: lock detail of an 18th century Eastern matchlock gun, most probably Japanese

Thanks once more, Fernando!

Best wishes,
Michael

Anandalal N. · 10th October 2009, 12:28 PM

Dear Fernando,

Thank you very much for providing this info. There is an amazing amount of information there and some that are of great interest to me. Could you pl. let me know what the label for the matchlock with a scrolled butt in the center of image No. 5 states and who it belongs to. Is it from Rainer Daehnhardt's collection? I assume that it is the same as Nos. 9 and 11.

Regards.

Anan.

fernando · 10th October 2009, 07:33 PM

Hi Anan,
The example you refer is reportedly a Portuguese-Singhalese specimen, from the XVII century, built on the portuguese snap-match-principle.
Pictures 9 and 11 are indeed details of the same piece.
The example below, in the same picture, is a Singhalese specimen from the XVIII century, also based in the portuguese principle of the period.
Both belong to Rainer Daenhnardt collection.
Fernando

Anandalal N. · 11th October 2009, 04:16 AM

Dear Fernando,

Thank you very much for this info., which confirms my thinking. I would assume there is no catalogue of the exibition illustrating these; is there?

Once again thank you very much for providing this important information.

I owe you one.

Best Regards.

Anan.

10th October 2009, 12:15 AM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	New arms museulogic nucleus in Portugal - Part three Hi Norman, That's the artillery, . Attached Images

10th October 2009, 12:17 AM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	. Attached Images

10th October 2009, 10:55 AM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Fernando, Exzellent images, thank you so much. From top: pics 1-4: a wrought iron haquebut with hexagonal barrel of shifting sections, ca. 1460 - pic 5, from top: - a composite German matchlock haquebut, the stock only ca. 1540 and sold Tom Del Mar, Dec 15, 2004, from Frondsberg Castle, Styria; the barrel a dummy, the lock plate and match holder inadequate modern replacements in the shape of ca. 1650 - two 18th century matchlock guns, both probably from Malaysia - pic 6: lock detail of the latter - pic 7: a very rare South German snap tinder lock haquebut, ca. 1530, the wrought iron barrel fitted with originally tubular backsight (the upper plate now missing), the lock mechanism with lateral push button trigger partly imbedded in the stock, only the tinder holder mounted on a small plate - pic 8: a very unusual revolving cylinder matchlock gun, most probably India, 18th-19th century, the serpentine presumably a modern replacement - pic 9: detail of the buttstock double scroll of the Malaysian matchlock gun illustrated in pic 5 - pic 10: lock detail of the first gun in pic 5 - pic 11: lock detail of the Malysian matchlock from pics 5 and 9 - pic 12: lock detail of an 18th century Eastern matchlock gun, most probably Japanese Thanks once more, Fernando! Best wishes, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 10th October 2009 at 12:33 PM.

10th October 2009, 12:28 PM	#4
Anandalal N. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 84	Dear Fernando, Thank you very much for providing this info. There is an amazing amount of information there and some that are of great interest to me. Could you pl. let me know what the label for the matchlock with a scrolled butt in the center of image No. 5 states and who it belongs to. Is it from Rainer Daehnhardt's collection? I assume that it is the same as Nos. 9 and 11. Regards. Anan.

10th October 2009, 07:33 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Anan, The example you refer is reportedly a Portuguese-Singhalese specimen, from the XVII century, built on the portuguese snap-match-principle. Pictures 9 and 11 are indeed details of the same piece. The example below, in the same picture, is a Singhalese specimen from the XVIII century, also based in the portuguese principle of the period. Both belong to Rainer Daenhnardt collection. Fernando

11th October 2009, 04:16 AM	#6
Anandalal N. Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 84	Dear Fernando, Thank you very much for this info., which confirms my thinking. I would assume there is no catalogue of the exibition illustrating these; is there? Once again thank you very much for providing this important information. I owe you one. Best Regards. Anan.