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hi
new keris today is it good keris? length of the blade 40 cm thanks |
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Congrats,
very nice keris, seems original to me. But maybe based on the length of the blade not Java. Could be a Bali blade. ![]() Regards, sajen Last edited by Sajen; 22nd February 2009 at 03:45 AM. |
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It is a very nice keris. Javanese. Dapur Ganesha or keris Ganesha named to the elephant. Very nice executed but not an old keris.
But i wouldn't be punished with such a keris. |
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Hi Henk, why you think that this keris isn't old? Regards, Detlef |
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![]() I don't think it is very old either. Seems at least into the 20th century. Of course better, sharper photos would be helpful as would seeing it with a proper stain. |
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thanks for your appreciations.
others photos |
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Hello galvano,
a picture from the peksi will be helpful. Regards, sajen |
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The greneng (ron dha) doesn't suggest it is Javanese. Close to Bali or Lombok to me. But I love this kind of sublime luks (waves).
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IMO is from Bali and VERY VERY NICE. (I think is an old armonious blade)
Warangan? |
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Thanks for the better pics Galvano.
![]() Marco, i don't know what you mean by "armonious". Could you explain? It is clear from the surface of this blade that it wasn't kept in a Balinese manner or the blade surface would be much smoother. I am leaning more towards Lombok where not all blades are polished. Of course it is in Javanese dress so perhaps it was in Jawa for a few years an had a bunch of Javanese washings. ![]() |
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LENGTH 7,8 CM
DIAMETER 8 MM |
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Dear Galvano,
I am not an expert but the peksi shows that this keris have some age. You have to consider the different climate in Indonesia but a corrosion like this need some time. Regards, sajen |
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Sorry Sajen,
but you're mistaken. This pesi is the prove of recent manufacture. |
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![]() I do agree that this blade has a nice harmonious balance. ![]() |
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but why : peksi+ rust = new thanks |
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I'm not an expert either.............
Rust can come up very quickly. Even in a few days. The rust is rather lose if you look at the pictures and doesn't seem rust being there for years. That kind of rust looks much more different. |
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I think I saw a keris with elephant gandik, luk 3 keris.
might be a recent made keris. |
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Hello,
I think that this is a very interesting thread and this blade is a puzzle to me. I still think that this blade isn't recent but I can be mistaken. Galvano you clean the peksi? I think to see a split in the top of it from corrosion. I want to show here three peksi for comparison: a recent Madura blade, an old Java blade and an old Bali blade. It will be interesting what our javanese members think about this blade. And I agree with Newsteel that the greneng is a sign of balinese origin while the sogokan is more javanese. Regards, sajen Last edited by Sajen; 28th February 2009 at 03:45 PM. |
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Dear all, I have followed the discussion for long time but worried my English not good for joining the forum.
Today I try for joining the discussion and please accept my apologize if my word is wrong. Dear galvano, maybe your keris is like Henk said, I also suppose it is new Maduranese origin made (because it made by order, sometimes the Maduranese keris made adopted of another origin), the corrosion and rust maybe caused of unfinished for finishing (kamal) process. The kamal process not always to fool people to judge the piece as old but for make the blade become harmoniously like Sajen said. Many of the new Maduranese keris always has ganja tail like buntut urang and has more heavy weight than old keris, so I suppose your keris has ganja buntut urang too. Sincerely, Suryo |
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I am not convinced that this work is from Madura. The pesi seems consistent with those i have seen on Bali and Lombok keris. Can we possibly see a photo looking down on the gonjo. ![]() |
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So, maybe buntut cecak has sub-definiton : buntut cecak and buntut urang. Buntut urang has bolder and flat at the tip (like shrimp tail), another pointed tip known as buntut cecak. |
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hi all
For the specialist in the kriss. I clean peksi? I do not clean peksi? Rust is hard and thick. What I do ? ![]() ![]() thanks |
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Rust is like a cancer on your keris, it eats and get worse.. and it takes away it engery til its isi and angsar is gone.. " left to a beter place than in the rusty keris ". You can use cocos water (iff posible let it get old cocos water, keep it in a jar for few weeks) to get the most of rust of. And if got it cleaned oil him regulary, i use most of time jasim oil.. be shure its pure oil!
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