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Hello ALL. And Happy New Year - I hope LOL
I bought this small pouch some years ago at a very good price since the seller could not I.D. it's origin or time frame. Neither can I LOL Although it looks European - from some where. It's well made with a wood under frame painted red, and covered in leather and brass trim. The pocket is empty with no compartment for anything special. The small brass loops on the sides leads me to believe it was designed to hang from a chain on a belt or across the chest on a baldric. Maybe for a dress/parade/guard type uniform (?) Don't know. Just thought someone here might recognize the CROWN as a clue to it's origin. Thanks for any help. Rick |
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Hi Rick,
Looks like the pouch from an officers cross belt. Originally for cartridges now a ceremonial uniform accessory. Here are some images pulled from the net. Regards, Norman. P.S. The crown suggests to me continental European. |
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You won't mind Rick, we move this topic to the Miscellania forum
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Hi Norman
Happy New Year. Thanks for the photos. That's what I was also thinking. There's no evidence there was ever anything inside the pouch. So mine was probably for display only. Maybe early 20th Century. I tried researching various crowns, but no exact duplicate. So my guess is just a generic continental European crown as you mention. Thanks again for your reply. Hi Fernando. Happy New Year. No problem. Wasn't sure which Forum to post it since it's, well, European miscellaneous. LOL Rick |
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Happy new year to you too, Rick
![]() Yes, surely a ceremonial uniform version. I had one myself but mine had the symbol of the (Portuguese) military branch it belonged. |
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You might get a glimpse of this pouch in period photos if lucky. Try googling ammmunition pouch etc. under images may be the quickest way if there is another on the web.
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I got lucky this time:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ase-1922827075 Seems to be US manufacture most likely for a fratenal organization? another: https://www.etsy.com/au/listing/7550...search_click=1 Seems no one can ID it. |
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The Spaniards.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=knig...h=789&biw=1440
sold on Ebay as Knights of Pythias. The Order of the Knights of Pythias is a non-sectarian fraternal organization founded in 1864 by Justus Rathbone. Named to honor the ancient friendship of the two Roman figures, Damon and Pythias, the Knights sought "to gather into one mighty fraternity, worthy men who appreciate the true meaning of friendship." The organization also offered financial benefits to its members in the event of sickness or disability, and death benefits to the families of deceased members. The Uniform Rank within the Knights of Pythias developed in 1878 from various drill corps organized by members. They marched in parades and participated in other public functions. The emblem of the group was a lily. Though popular when first organized, membership dwindled throughout the first part of the twentieth century and the Uniform Rank was removed from its status as an official auxiliary circa 1950. Last edited by Will M; 10th January 2021 at 09:00 PM. |
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Will: Thank you very much for the I.D. Much appreciated. So, appears to be something something similar to the Knights of Columbus, just earlier.
Nothing very old, or over exciting. LOL But again, appreciate everyone's help. Thanks. Rick |
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