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Should really appreciate opinions about this dagger....
Lenght ca 25 cm.... No sheath... Sorry for the pictures.... The only ones I got for the moment.... Best, Stefan |
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Persian khanjar?
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Stefan,
If the grip is ebony or African Black Wood I would offer that it is perhaps of Sudanese Rashaida Arab origin. The Rashaida came to Sudan in the early 19thC and now live including around Kassala. ABW is a common wood for knife handles there. The style is similar to Kassala arm daggers, but may also have an Arab twist. Also, the blade is better than most local products. Suggest Arab/Yemeni blade with Eastern Sudan made grip, mid-19th to early 20th C. This could be really off-base, but intuition called. Regards, Ed |
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It does sort of look like iron, nice patina.
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Ottoman?
They liked all-iron. |
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Yes I agree that this is iron or more likely steel. Persian is my guess with the "I" form of hilt.
I also wonder if this is later Qajar period, and if so, might not be wootz after all. Might have originally had some silver koftgari one the hilt and/or blade, and might even be 20th century. |
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Some will say Indo Persian... but it's Indian. Of course you can see the Persian influence in the steel khanjar style hilt. These daggers are very common and very very late 19th if not 20th century. To me they were more panoplie decorative things but as I said you will have more precise answers from specialists. |
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Hi,
I am also not an expert on Indo-Persian weapons, but this looks like a Persian Khanjar from late Qajar period (around 1900). Typical all-steel construction with a hollow hilt. Very similar items were made in Damascus as well, but the style of decoration is quite different. Very little chance of wootz blade because they are almost non-existent in this type. Some are engraved with plants, animal and humans, particularly hunting scenes, but no wootz. |
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Almost certainly Indian ... I have one with the same hilt but straight blade . It had the swollen 'mail piercing' tip .
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Use the key words Indian jambiya
You will find plenty... some of them are 19th c may be earlier... |
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Thank you so very much guys for you opinions. I really appreciate it.
As soon as I have it in my hands I will take more pictures of it and post it here. Best, Stefan |
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It’s clearly Persian.
Last edited by sfenoid13; 3rd September 2019 at 02:55 AM. |
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While the general shape and the hilt appear to be Persian, typical Persian khanjars have the signature central rib, which this one does not.
However, blades of diamond cross-section like this one are very common with the Kurdish people. Ad let us not forget that large portions of the areas inhabited by Kurdish people were (some still are) part of Persia. So, my oppinion is that it is a Persian inspired Kurdish khanjar. ![]() |
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Rajasthani jambia. I met them there.
Kubur - ! |
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Have just been packing it up....
Handle is iron.... More pictures will come when the light is better.... Rainy day here.... ![]() Best, Stefan |
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Well....
Persia, Arab/Yemeni blade with Eastern Sudan made grip, Ottoman, Rajastan, just India in general, Kurdish.... Any other countries on the map? :-) |
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