Halberd and Elbow Gauntlet Armourer's Mark for ID

Cerjak · 10th August 2017, 06:49 PM

Halberd and Elbow Gauntlet Armourer's Mark for ID
Is there any member familiar with these marks , or know of some source from I can find such info.?
Thanks in advance.
Cerjak

Reventlov · 12th August 2017, 02:14 AM

Hi Jean-Luc,
The mark on your second halberd is familiar to me and I can refer to you a few examples, but I don't think this mark has ever been identified. More-or-less similar marks appear on various halberds, but none of the same type as yours... the closest matches might be VII.1028 in the Royal Armouries, A966 in the Wallace Collection, and KZ-123 in Zurich.

The same (or very similar) mark appears on a few corseques or "Friuli spears"... bit of puzzle since these seem a bit separated in time and place from the halberds. One is in Venice, another is in Berlin (the mark is visible on page 244 of Europaische Hieb- und Stich-waffen). Might be another in Vienna, and at least one more in a private collection.

With a bit of imagination, the mark on the gauntlet can resemble the coat of arms of Saxony... the crossed swords on the left signify the hereditary office of the Imperial Arch-Marshal.

best,
Mark

corrado26 · 12th August 2017, 03:33 PM

The mark at the gauntlets is IMHO identical with the sign on the buttcap of a black wheellock pistol of Saxony of 1592
corrado26

Reventlov · 12th August 2017, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by corrado26

The mark at the gauntlets is IMHO identical with the sign on the buttcap of a black wheellock pistol of Saxony of 1592
corrado26

Well done! My only doubt was that I had never seen the garland in the Saxon arms shaped as a semicircle, but that settles that.

Cerjak · 12th August 2017, 07:22 PM

Dear Mark
Many thanks to have find out this coat of arms of Saxony on the Gauntlet and Corrado also to have confirm the find of mark.
Please see this other example
best

Jean-Luc

10th August 2017, 06:49 PM	#1
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Halberd and Elbow Gauntlet Armourer's Mark for ID Halberd and Elbow Gauntlet Armourer's Mark for ID Is there any member familiar with these marks , or know of some source from I can find such info.? Thanks in advance. Cerjak Attached Images Last edited by Cerjak; 10th August 2017 at 08:31 PM.

12th August 2017, 02:14 AM	#2
Reventlov Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 132	Hi Jean-Luc, The mark on your second halberd is familiar to me and I can refer to you a few examples, but I don't think this mark has ever been identified. More-or-less similar marks appear on various halberds, but none of the same type as yours... the closest matches might be VII.1028 in the Royal Armouries, A966 in the Wallace Collection, and KZ-123 in Zurich. The same (or very similar) mark appears on a few corseques or "Friuli spears"... bit of puzzle since these seem a bit separated in time and place from the halberds. One is in Venice, another is in Berlin (the mark is visible on page 244 of Europaische Hieb- und Stich-waffen). Might be another in Vienna, and at least one more in a private collection. With a bit of imagination, the mark on the gauntlet can resemble the coat of arms of Saxony... the crossed swords on the left signify the hereditary office of the Imperial Arch-Marshal. best, Mark Attached Images

12th August 2017, 03:33 PM	#3
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	The mark at the gauntlets is IMHO identical with the sign on the buttcap of a black wheellock pistol of Saxony of 1592 corrado26 Attached Images

12th August 2017, 07:22 PM	#5
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Dear Mark Many thanks to have find out this coat of arms of Saxony on the Gauntlet and Corrado also to have confirm the find of mark. Please see this other example best Jean-Luc Attached Images