STRANGE WEAPON??

BANDOOK · 14th July 2015, 08:56 AM

COULD SOME ONE TELL ME WHAT THIS ANCIENT WEAPON IS,ITS IN INDIA AND THEY WANTED MY THOUGHTS,CHEERS

Kubur · 14th July 2015, 10:15 AM

Hi Rajesh,

It's super cool.
It looks like a a combined weapon, a sword and a matchlock gun.
But that's it, I know nothing about Indian weapons.

Best,
Kubur

BANDOOK · 14th July 2015, 10:32 AM

THANKS KUBUR GOOD OBSERVATION ,APPRECIATED

kahnjar1 · 14th July 2015, 09:37 PM

I agree with KUBUR. Combination sword/matchlock.
I have surfed thru my books on Indian weapons but the only "combination" weapons shown appear to be either axes and guns, or knives and guns.
Stu

kronckew · 15th July 2015, 12:44 AM

tipu sultan attacked the brits with metal tubed rockets that used old sword blades as the 'stabilizing' tail as well as the active weapon. apparently on impact they spun around wildly and did a great amount of damage.

could the tube be used to attach to a rocket's tail?

trenchwarfare · 16th July 2015, 04:52 PM

Page 33 of Louis Winant's "Firearms Curiosa" shows a similar weapon, but percussion. It is either a pistol in the form of a Dha, or a Dha in the form of a pistol. I have actually seen one of these. A guy used to bring one to the Dallas Militaria Show. He referred to it as a Malay pirate pistol.

Raf · 17th July 2015, 10:35 AM

A while ago I posted this barrel in the European forum. It had been faked up as a European matchlock so the pan and cover are modern. The muzzle looked Indian but the strange lump to the breech and the apparent absence of an original flashpan isnt something normally seen on Indian matchlocks. I posted it because I thought the breech might have originally terminated in a spike or socket , as in very early European hand guns , or if it was Indian could be evidence that the very earliest Indian matchlocks were tiller guns. That is barrels terminating in a long forged spike . The example above suggests an alternative explanation ; that it is the remains of a combination weapon, in view of the length of the barrel possibly an axe.

14th July 2015, 08:56 AM	#1
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	STRANGE WEAPON?? COULD SOME ONE TELL ME WHAT THIS ANCIENT WEAPON IS,ITS IN INDIA AND THEY WANTED MY THOUGHTS,CHEERS Attached Images

17th July 2015, 10:35 AM	#7
Raf Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 252	A while ago I posted this barrel in the European forum. It had been faked up as a European matchlock so the pan and cover are modern. The muzzle looked Indian but the strange lump to the breech and the apparent absence of an original flashpan isnt something normally seen on Indian matchlocks. I posted it because I thought the breech might have originally terminated in a spike or socket , as in very early European hand guns , or if it was Indian could be evidence that the very earliest Indian matchlocks were tiller guns. That is barrels terminating in a long forged spike . The example above suggests an alternative explanation ; that it is the remains of a combination weapon, in view of the length of the barrel possibly an axe. Attached Images

14th July 2015, 10:15 AM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Rajesh, It's super cool. It looks like a a combined weapon, a sword and a matchlock gun. But that's it, I know nothing about Indian weapons. Best, Kubur

14th July 2015, 10:32 AM	#3
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	THANKS KUBUR GOOD OBSERVATION ,APPRECIATED

14th July 2015, 09:37 PM	#4
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,741	I agree with KUBUR. Combination sword/matchlock. I have surfed thru my books on Indian weapons but the only "combination" weapons shown appear to be either axes and guns, or knives and guns. Stu

15th July 2015, 12:44 AM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	tipu sultan attacked the brits with metal tubed rockets that used old sword blades as the 'stabilizing' tail as well as the active weapon. apparently on impact they spun around wildly and did a great amount of damage. could the tube be used to attach to a rocket's tail?

16th July 2015, 04:52 PM	#6
trenchwarfare Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 385	Page 33 of Louis Winant's "Firearms Curiosa" shows a similar weapon, but percussion. It is either a pistol in the form of a Dha, or a Dha in the form of a pistol. I have actually seen one of these. A guy used to bring one to the Dallas Militaria Show. He referred to it as a Malay pirate pistol.