The straightforward kinatah thread

Jussi M. · 10th July 2010, 01:58 AM

Greetings,

I am trying to obtain information on the art and craft of kinatah. There are a lot of threads that partly address it but I had yet to find one that concentrates in it from the perspective of addressing what kinatah actually stands for, ie. what functions does it have, and or did have (name time/place); what methods are used to apply kinatah on a keris and what differences are there in the materials used? Also of interest is whether there are clear geographical differences regarding the aforementioned and if, what are they?

The best info that I was able to find so far has been presented on this thread.

Please continue on this thread. Also, if you can name good sources that concentrate on the art and craft of kinatah I am all ears!

Thanks,

J.

A. G. Maisey · 10th July 2010, 04:19 AM

Jussi, the best way to answer this question is to find somebody who is not as lazy as I am to translate the chapter in Haryo Guritno's "Keris Jawa" and post it along with copies of the photos.

I will not do this because it would take too long, and from my perspective would be knowledge for the sake of knowledge for 99.9% of the people who contribute to these discussions.

Very briefly, there are two types of gold ornamentation for blades:- kinatah (tinatah) and sinrasah (srasah, sinarasah).

Kinatah is the Indonesian equivalent of koftgari and the most usual method of application of the gold is by a similar method, ie, carve the foundation for the ornamentation in relief and roughen the surface with chisel cuts, then apply the gold leaf. There are other less traditional and much less good methods.

Sinarasah involves making a hole in the blade. The bottom of the hole is wider than the top, gold is hammered into the hole and smoothed level with the blade surface. This is used for calligraphy mostly. Sometimes this method can be used as a sort of substitute for kinatah, when a big lump of gold is left proud of the blade surface, and then that lump of gold is carved.

Where the iron is carved it is done by the blade maker. The gold work is done by a gold worker.

In strict terms the only material used for kinatah must be gold.

The reasons for kinatah can be purely artistic, or in times past to indicate social or hierarchical position. Outside the kraton:- social position, thus related to social power and economic wealth; inside the kraton to hierarchical position.

The above remarks apply only to Jawa and Bali. I am not able to comment on kinatah ornamentation as used in other locations.

David · 10th July 2010, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

In strict terms the only material used for kinatah must be gold.

Is there another term to be used when the ornamentation is silver instead of gold?

A. G. Maisey · 10th July 2010, 05:35 AM

Not to my knowledge, David.

However, old, genuine, traditional kinatah is not ever found in silver --- or brass either for that matter.

Gold is the metal of honour, not silver.

In keris thought, kinatah refers to gold work.

David · 10th July 2010, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Not to my knowledge, David.

However, old, genuine, traditional kinatah is not ever found in silver --- or brass either for that matter.

Gold is the metal of honour, not silver.

In keris thought, kinatah refers to gold work.

I made this inquiry because i have an old Madura patrem that i received from you some time ago that has blade ornamentation placed on the gandik and on the top of the gonjo in the manner of kinatah that is done in silver. It was my understanding that this was old and genuine work.

A. G. Maisey · 11th July 2010, 02:05 AM

If it is a patrem it automatically falls outside the parameters that we apply to the male keris, further, it may be that originally this silver was plated with gold.

10th July 2010, 01:58 AM	#1
Jussi M. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 235	The straightforward kinatah thread Greetings, I am trying to obtain information on the art and craft of kinatah. There are a lot of threads that partly address it but I had yet to find one that concentrates in it from the perspective of addressing what kinatah actually stands for, ie. what functions does it have, and or did have (name time/place); what methods are used to apply kinatah on a keris and what differences are there in the materials used? Also of interest is whether there are clear geographical differences regarding the aforementioned and if, what are they? The best info that I was able to find so far has been presented on this thread. Please continue on this thread. Also, if you can name good sources that concentrate on the art and craft of kinatah I am all ears! Thanks, J.

10th July 2010, 04:19 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,896	Jussi, the best way to answer this question is to find somebody who is not as lazy as I am to translate the chapter in Haryo Guritno's "Keris Jawa" and post it along with copies of the photos. I will not do this because it would take too long, and from my perspective would be knowledge for the sake of knowledge for 99.9% of the people who contribute to these discussions. Very briefly, there are two types of gold ornamentation for blades:- kinatah (tinatah) and sinrasah (srasah, sinarasah). Kinatah is the Indonesian equivalent of koftgari and the most usual method of application of the gold is by a similar method, ie, carve the foundation for the ornamentation in relief and roughen the surface with chisel cuts, then apply the gold leaf. There are other less traditional and much less good methods. Sinarasah involves making a hole in the blade. The bottom of the hole is wider than the top, gold is hammered into the hole and smoothed level with the blade surface. This is used for calligraphy mostly. Sometimes this method can be used as a sort of substitute for kinatah, when a big lump of gold is left proud of the blade surface, and then that lump of gold is carved. Where the iron is carved it is done by the blade maker. The gold work is done by a gold worker. In strict terms the only material used for kinatah must be gold. The reasons for kinatah can be purely artistic, or in times past to indicate social or hierarchical position. Outside the kraton:- social position, thus related to social power and economic wealth; inside the kraton to hierarchical position. The above remarks apply only to Jawa and Bali. I am not able to comment on kinatah ornamentation as used in other locations.

10th July 2010, 05:35 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,896	Not to my knowledge, David. However, old, genuine, traditional kinatah is not ever found in silver --- or brass either for that matter. Gold is the metal of honour, not silver. In keris thought, kinatah refers to gold work.

11th July 2010, 02:05 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,896	If it is a patrem it automatically falls outside the parameters that we apply to the male keris, further, it may be that originally this silver was plated with gold.