Qalatchoori sword

ariel · 3rd July 2006, 08:39 PM

I keep bumping into this name time and time again. Usually, it comes up in connection to the Ottoman Kilij, because Qalatchoori allegedly had a yelman. It had also been noted that the Qalatchoori mentioned by Ferdowsi is (or might have been ) different from the later one.
It is like a unicorn: everybody knows how it looks , but nobody had ever seen it....
Does anybody here on the Forum know some actual facts about this sword and perhaps ( just perhaps!! ) owns one?

S.Al-Anizi · 3rd July 2006, 11:28 PM

Im sure I read that word in "Islamic Arms and Armour", the fancy catalogue.

ariel · 4th July 2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by S.Al-Anizi

Im sure I read that word in "Islamic Arms and Armour", the fancy catalogue.

That's the problem: the name pops up all the time, but nobody explains what it is!

ariel · 10th July 2006, 12:42 AM

Since it is mentioned by Ferdowsi, I guess it must be a very old, Turkic, Uzbeki-type sword.
I have a pseudoshashka (Central Asian, Afghani/Uzbeki) with a strange blade. It was already posted here years ago, but I'd like to bring it back: perhaps, somebody can add useful guesses.
Instead of the classic Shashka blade, this one has "Indian Ricasso"-like feature, Yelman and a remarkable narrowing of the blade toward the point. The last feature looks just like Tatar swords (from Poland/Lithuania) or like archeological examples of ancient Migration era swords. Kind of "dinosauric" feature. Please, look at the pics, show them around to your friends who are into this area of research. Perhaps, we stumbled upon something really important.

3rd July 2006, 08:39 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Qalatchoori sword I keep bumping into this name time and time again. Usually, it comes up in connection to the Ottoman Kilij, because Qalatchoori allegedly had a yelman. It had also been noted that the Qalatchoori mentioned by Ferdowsi is (or might have been ) different from the later one. It is like a unicorn: everybody knows how it looks , but nobody had ever seen it.... Does anybody here on the Forum know some actual facts about this sword and perhaps ( just perhaps!! ) owns one?

10th July 2006, 12:42 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Since it is mentioned by Ferdowsi, I guess it must be a very old, Turkic, Uzbeki-type sword. I have a pseudoshashka (Central Asian, Afghani/Uzbeki) with a strange blade. It was already posted here years ago, but I'd like to bring it back: perhaps, somebody can add useful guesses. Instead of the classic Shashka blade, this one has "Indian Ricasso"-like feature, Yelman and a remarkable narrowing of the blade toward the point. The last feature looks just like Tatar swords (from Poland/Lithuania) or like archeological examples of ancient Migration era swords. Kind of "dinosauric" feature. Please, look at the pics, show them around to your friends who are into this area of research. Perhaps, we stumbled upon something really important. Attached Images

3rd July 2006, 11:28 PM	#2
S.Al-Anizi Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arabia Posts: 278	Im sure I read that word in "Islamic Arms and Armour", the fancy catalogue.