Clip point Filipino sword

algrennathan · 18th November 2021, 01:53 PM

Just wanna ask. Are clip point bolos endemic to a certain province in the Philippines, or were they widespread all over Luzon during the revolution. Just asking cause I'm just a but puzzled. There seems to be no standard configuration for these. Some appear in Pangasinan hilts, sometimes Tagalog, other times Ilocano. By the way I am referring to a fighting blade not some farmer implement.

kai · 18th November 2021, 07:18 PM

Hello Nathan(?),

Yes, clip point blades are quite widespread - there are some in the Visayas, more so throughout Luzon.

I believe Xas can show some nice examples...

Regards,
Kai

Ian · 18th November 2021, 09:26 PM

algrennathan,

Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting this question.

Just to clarify what you mean by "clip point." Are you referring to blades where the spine angles abruptly downwards towards the edge, but nevertheless has an acute point? Or are you referring to a blade which essentially has a blunt end, as if the point has been cut off?

To illustrate with a figure from Cole's early 20th C paper on the Tinguian people of northern Luzon. Are you referring to blades such as shown in #2, or blades like those in #5 and #6? Blades like those in #2 are very common throughout the Philippines, while those like #5 and #6 are less common but also found widely.

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kai · 18th November 2021, 10:13 PM

Hello Ian,

I for one was referring to something like #2 (there are many different variations) - that seems to vibe with the OP referring to a fighting blade, I believe.

Regards,
Kai

Ian · 19th November 2021, 01:22 AM

Hi kai,

Yes, that was my interpretation of the question also. There are many versions of the sinan bartolome in Luzon that cut across ethnic groups and have prominently clipped blades. There are also the imitation 'Bowie" blades made widely for local and foreign use.

However, there are some fighting versions of the second type, including the "katana" of the Aeta in Central Luzon (as made by local Pampangans).

Regards,

Ian.

algrennathan · 19th November 2021, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian

algrennathan,

Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting this question.

Just to clarify what you mean by "clip point." Are you referring to blades where the spine angles abruptly downwards towards the edge, but nevertheless has an acute point? Or are you referring to a blade which essentially has a blunt end, as if the point has been cut off?

To illustrate with a figure from Cole's early 20th C paper on the Tinguian people of northern Luzon. Are you referring to blades such as shown in #2, or blades like those in #5 and #6? Blades like those in #2 are very common throughout the Philippines, while those like #5 and #6 are less common but also found widely.

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Hi Ian.

Yes, I was referring to no. 2. Can you tell me more about this blade shape?

xasterix · 19th November 2021, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kai

Hello Nathan(?),

Yes, clip point blades are quite widespread - there are some in the Visayas, more so throughout Luzon.

I believe Xas can show some nice examples...

Regards,
Kai

Thanks for the redirect Kai! Unfortunately I'm still expanding my knowledge in this topic as well. Although I've noticed even Mindanao has clip point blades too

they're just not as easily recognizable (nor as common) as Luzon and Visayas clip points.

18th November 2021, 01:53 PM	#1
algrennathan Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 9	Clip point Filipino sword Just wanna ask. Are clip point bolos endemic to a certain province in the Philippines, or were they widespread all over Luzon during the revolution. Just asking cause I'm just a but puzzled. There seems to be no standard configuration for these. Some appear in Pangasinan hilts, sometimes Tagalog, other times Ilocano. By the way I am referring to a fighting blade not some farmer implement. Last edited by Ian; 18th November 2021 at 04:29 PM. Reason: Text size

18th November 2021, 09:26 PM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	algrennathan, Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting this question. Just to clarify what you mean by "clip point." Are you referring to blades where the spine angles abruptly downwards towards the edge, but nevertheless has an acute point? Or are you referring to a blade which essentially has a blunt end, as if the point has been cut off? To illustrate with a figure from Cole's early 20th C paper on the Tinguian people of northern Luzon. Are you referring to blades such as shown in #2, or blades like those in #5 and #6? Blades like those in #2 are very common throughout the Philippines, while those like #5 and #6 are less common but also found widely. . Attached Images Last edited by Ian; 19th November 2021 at 01:28 AM. Reason: Spelling

18th November 2021, 07:18 PM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Nathan(?), Yes, clip point blades are quite widespread - there are some in the Visayas, more so throughout Luzon. I believe Xas can show some nice examples... Regards, Kai

18th November 2021, 10:13 PM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,254	Hello Ian, I for one was referring to something like #2 (there are many different variations) - that seems to vibe with the OP referring to a fighting blade, I believe. Regards, Kai

19th November 2021, 01:22 AM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,200	Hi kai, Yes, that was my interpretation of the question also. There are many versions of the sinan bartolome in Luzon that cut across ethnic groups and have prominently clipped blades. There are also the imitation 'Bowie" blades made widely for local and foreign use. However, there are some fighting versions of the second type, including the "katana" of the Aeta in Central Luzon (as made by local Pampangans). Regards, Ian.