Interesting arrows and spears made of wood

chregu · 13th March 2010, 11:55 PM

hello together.
Today was once again lucky day!
I found these arrows and spears.
Stocks are a type of bamboo, and the tips look like the knives in the palm wood.
anyone an idea? could be the origin of the?
gruss chregu
we may also ask to set a bow and arrow?

chregu · 14th March 2010, 12:00 AM

Here the great spears
completely from wood and painted

chregu · 14th March 2010, 12:03 AM

Here, the short spears,
Upper made from bamboo, palm wood tip?

chregu · 14th March 2010, 12:08 AM

more arrows
A bamboo stem, in part Painted, pointed hardwood wrapped with ratan
all those things come from a small town museum that was closed a few years.
great pleasure when watching

KuKulzA28 · 14th March 2010, 03:24 AM

those are very nice!

I wonder... maybe the plant fiber on the tips is meant to rot in the enemy's body...

VANDOO · 15th March 2010, 01:07 AM

THEY ARE MOST LIKELY FROM NEW GUINEA OR THE ISLANDS AROUND THERE. I HAVE SOME VERY SIMULAR FROM AN OLD COLLECTION THEY WERE COLLECTED IN THE 1930'S BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE INFORMATION ON WHERE THEY WERE COLLECTED WASN'T WITH THEM.
THE DESIGNS ON THE SHAFTS IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF THE ARROW. THE FIBER WRAP ON TIPS IS DESIGNED TO COME OFF IN THE WOUND AND MAKE INFECTION MORE LIKELY. SOMETIMES THE FIBER IS SOAKED IN SOMETHING ROTTEN OR POSIONOUS BEFORE WRAPPING ON THE TIP OR SHAFT TO DRY. A FIBER FROM A TYPE OF ORCHID IS OFTEN USED FOR THIS AND HAS A YELLOW COLOR. CONGRADULATIONS A NICE SELECTION.

asomotif · 15th March 2010, 12:41 PM

For the arrows, PNG (Papoea New Guinea) is my first impression too.

This type of spear is new to me.
Also the wraping around the point is new to me. Vicious people

M ELEY · 15th March 2010, 01:56 PM

Very nice items! Papau, New Guinea I also say. I used to have a similar spear years ago, but not as nice as these examples. Very cool! I'm assuming Sepik River region? Dani? Asmat?

chregu · 15th March 2010, 07:29 PM

hello together
Thank you for the detailed descriptions. I would never own rausgefunden.
on Saturday it was a pure coincidence that I found these things. I've talked with an old man, building on the bow and arrow, as he told me he was from the old Bally Museum arrows.
Now I have another question. I once bought a bow that could fit by nature to do so. It is possible that this statement is also from New Ginea?
164cm length, 3,5cm wide,thick 1,5cm, he is build as a flat Bow and with a tendon from bamboo.

regards

chregu

fearn · 15th March 2010, 10:43 PM

It looks like a New Guinea bow, perhaps from the Dani (technically from Irian Jaya). That use of a flat rattan strap for a bow string is unique to New Guinea, maybe to the Dani. The arrows that it could shoot would not have a nock at the back: they just fit them flat on the strap and let fly. Fun stuff.

Best,

F

bluelake · 16th March 2010, 02:22 AM

I have a similar bow with long arrows set that was given to me by a university student of mine. She was in Indonesia and saw the set in a boat and asked the owner if he would be willing to sell, which he was. She thought of me and my love of trad archery, so she gave them to me. I'll look for my pics later and post them.

VANDOO · 16th March 2010, 05:20 PM

SOME BOWS FROM NEW GUINEA HAVE A LONGER POINT ON ONE END THAT GOES QUITE A BIT LONGER FROM THE STRING. THIS END IS STUCK IN THE GROUND WHEN IT IS SHOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS INCREASES THE RANGE OR MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO DRAW IT FURTHER? IT WOULD SEEM IT WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO SHOOT ACCURATELY BUT I GUESS YOU WOULD LEARN THE TECKNIQUE. I NOTICE YOUR BOW HAS A LONGER POINT THAT IS VERY WORN SO PERHAPS IT WAS USED IN THIS WAY.
I KNOW SOME BOWS WERE USED WHILE LAYING ON THE GROUND AND HOLDING THE BOW HORIZONTALY WITH THE FEET AND PULLING THE STRING WITH BOTH HANDS. HOW ACCURATE THEY WERE ABLE TO SHOOT

BUT PRACTICE DOES MAKE PERFECT AND NO DOUBT SOME PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO BECOME QUITE PROFECIANT WITH THESE TECKNIQUES.

13th March 2010, 11:55 PM	#1
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	Interesting arrows and spears made of wood hello together. Today was once again lucky day! I found these arrows and spears. Stocks are a type of bamboo, and the tips look like the knives in the palm wood. anyone an idea? could be the origin of the? gruss chregu we may also ask to set a bow and arrow? Attached Images

14th March 2010, 12:00 AM	#2
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	Here the great spears completely from wood and painted Attached Images

14th March 2010, 12:03 AM	#3
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	Here, the short spears, Upper made from bamboo, palm wood tip? Attached Images

14th March 2010, 12:08 AM	#4
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	more arrows A bamboo stem, in part Painted, pointed hardwood wrapped with ratan all those things come from a small town museum that was closed a few years. great pleasure when watching Attached Images

15th March 2010, 07:29 PM	#9
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	still a bow hello together Thank you for the detailed descriptions. I would never own rausgefunden. on Saturday it was a pure coincidence that I found these things. I've talked with an old man, building on the bow and arrow, as he told me he was from the old Bally Museum arrows. Now I have another question. I once bought a bow that could fit by nature to do so. It is possible that this statement is also from New Ginea? 164cm length, 3,5cm wide,thick 1,5cm, he is build as a flat Bow and with a tendon from bamboo. regards chregu Attached Images

14th March 2010, 03:24 AM	#5
KuKulzA28 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: between work and sleep Posts: 731	those are very nice! I wonder... maybe the plant fiber on the tips is meant to rot in the enemy's body...

15th March 2010, 01:07 AM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THEY ARE MOST LIKELY FROM NEW GUINEA OR THE ISLANDS AROUND THERE. I HAVE SOME VERY SIMULAR FROM AN OLD COLLECTION THEY WERE COLLECTED IN THE 1930'S BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE INFORMATION ON WHERE THEY WERE COLLECTED WASN'T WITH THEM. THE DESIGNS ON THE SHAFTS IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF THE ARROW. THE FIBER WRAP ON TIPS IS DESIGNED TO COME OFF IN THE WOUND AND MAKE INFECTION MORE LIKELY. SOMETIMES THE FIBER IS SOAKED IN SOMETHING ROTTEN OR POSIONOUS BEFORE WRAPPING ON THE TIP OR SHAFT TO DRY. A FIBER FROM A TYPE OF ORCHID IS OFTEN USED FOR THIS AND HAS A YELLOW COLOR. CONGRADULATIONS A NICE SELECTION.

15th March 2010, 12:41 PM	#7
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,224	For the arrows, PNG (Papoea New Guinea) is my first impression too. This type of spear is new to me. Also the wraping around the point is new to me. Vicious people

15th March 2010, 01:56 PM	#8
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,089	Very nice items! Papau, New Guinea I also say. I used to have a similar spear years ago, but not as nice as these examples. Very cool! I'm assuming Sepik River region? Dani? Asmat?

15th March 2010, 10:43 PM	#10
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	It looks like a New Guinea bow, perhaps from the Dani (technically from Irian Jaya). That use of a flat rattan strap for a bow string is unique to New Guinea, maybe to the Dani. The arrows that it could shoot would not have a nock at the back: they just fit them flat on the strap and let fly. Fun stuff. Best, F

16th March 2010, 02:22 AM	#11
bluelake Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gyeongsan, South Korea Posts: 57	I have a similar bow with long arrows set that was given to me by a university student of mine. She was in Indonesia and saw the set in a boat and asked the owner if he would be willing to sell, which he was. She thought of me and my love of trad archery, so she gave them to me. I'll look for my pics later and post them.

16th March 2010, 05:20 PM	#12
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	SOME BOWS FROM NEW GUINEA HAVE A LONGER POINT ON ONE END THAT GOES QUITE A BIT LONGER FROM THE STRING. THIS END IS STUCK IN THE GROUND WHEN IT IS SHOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS INCREASES THE RANGE OR MAKES IT POSSIBLE TO DRAW IT FURTHER? IT WOULD SEEM IT WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO SHOOT ACCURATELY BUT I GUESS YOU WOULD LEARN THE TECKNIQUE. I NOTICE YOUR BOW HAS A LONGER POINT THAT IS VERY WORN SO PERHAPS IT WAS USED IN THIS WAY. I KNOW SOME BOWS WERE USED WHILE LAYING ON THE GROUND AND HOLDING THE BOW HORIZONTALY WITH THE FEET AND PULLING THE STRING WITH BOTH HANDS. HOW ACCURATE THEY WERE ABLE TO SHOOT BUT PRACTICE DOES MAKE PERFECT AND NO DOUBT SOME PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO BECOME QUITE PROFECIANT WITH THESE TECKNIQUES.