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23rd May 2017, 07:33 PM
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Lading terus ?
Hi
I have found different names for a piece like this and I don īt know the origin. A Lading terus usaly will have a grip with a knuckel? Itś a dagger made from a spear. I think rework a spear could also be a matter of recycling in later times. Grip and blade could be from different ages. 18 cm blade, total 29 cm. The blade looks like made of pamor, but I īm not sure. Imho the blade looks older and "better" than the grip. The woodworks looks a little bit crude and newer maybe more a stuff for tourists ? But my impression could be wrong. Hopefully somebody knows better here. Best thomas |
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23rd May 2017, 09:07 PM
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Hello Thomas,
what you have there is a tombak (spear point) from Indonesia remounted as dagger. Search here with the key word "tombak". And you are correct, the blade is older as the dress. Pamor blade is also correct. Best regards, Detlef |
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23rd May 2017, 09:19 PM
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Hi Detlef
Nice to meet you.Thanks for the information. I īm from Bergisch Gladbach, not so far away from Dortmund. Must be possible to meet. There is the " Messerstammtisch Rheinland " near Grevenbroich every 2 month. Best and thanks thomas |
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23rd May 2017, 09:38 PM
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I totally agree with Detlef's comments.
I would only add that the hilt is much later than the blade. |
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23rd May 2017, 09:45 PM
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Thanks to both of you. Any idea about the age of the spear point ?
Best regards thomas |
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24th May 2017, 02:39 PM
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Hi Thomas, yes, not so far and maybe we will meet in future.  I am not a really expert in regards to tombak but I think that it will be nearly impossible to pinpoint down an age for your tombak, it's not a masterpiece of work (sorry) so maybe also Alan wouldn't be able to do it. It's an old and most possible antique one but how old exact, I don't know.  See here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=tombak It's a tombak I've shown recently. Your's, of other form, get remounted as dagger somewhere in it's history, not very unusual, see here for example: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ghlight=tombak There is also something said to the term "lading terus".Best, Detlef |
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