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Hello all!
Im back after an unwantedly long absence. But now im back and intend to stay around this time! Ok, this lil guys been lurking in my collection for a while and I still have no clue what it is. It reminds me of a Balkan/Bosnian Bichaq a bit....especially the furrule. But then looking more the blade is more curved than any other bichaq I've seen. Not to mention the stag handle being odd to say the least.....strangely the handle is comfortable with several of the bumps fitting nicely between the fingers. The stag reminds me of various german knives....but the blade dont strike me as very German. Hopefully someone will know what i have because i defiantly dont! ![]() Mark (Aurangzeb) |
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Hi Mark,
Welcome back ! ![]() Looks almost like a Bird or Trout knife to me .. ![]() About the right size . |
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Hmmm...looks like it could be part of a hunting trouse perhaps. It has the same side-item style, size, construction with antler, etc.
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Hi M Eley,
I think the blade is chromed....it certainly is an odd bugger isnt it lol. I forgot to mention the chromed blade somehow ![]() P.S. the blade is single edged with a false edge on the spine |
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IMO, chrome = non-functional .
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Chrome=nonfunctional. Depends on period. I would agree that modern-day items with chroming are typically tourist, low-grade items, but the process of nickoling, which resembles chroming, has been around since the 1860's. I've had a Scottish baskethilt from the Crimean War with said nickoling on it.
Rick, I agree that it does have the cutting edge in a place that would make it a good gutting knife, like your trout piece. This also makes me wonder if it is an article from a trouse. The last time we had this debate, the ol' cheese/ fruit knife discussion came about, but i feel with the stag hilt and blade shape, it could be a working blade for the hunt. ![]() Mark E |
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hi all,
Is there a way to tell if it was nickled or chromed? I dont think its to recent....my personal feeling is 1950's at the latest. Its a solid piece. I wonder if it could be part of one of those german hunting sword sets.....i have seen some of those with accomanying knives. the mystery deepens eh? lol THE GAMES AFOOT! Mark... p.s i dont know if it helps but the furrel seems to be german silver. it doesnt have that blueish hue of real silver. and the blade is razor sharp. pps. take a look at the last 2 pieces on the page..... http://www.germaniainternational.com/hunting4.html i think this is the trouse of which you speak? and the handle on the last one is much like mine Last edited by Aurangzeb; 11th July 2009 at 05:47 AM. |
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Exactly the type of which I speak. Good find! Now if I had searched for that, I would have come up empty-handed. The second from the bottom is the type of which I speak. Hirshfanger and hunting implements were such an important part of Germanic culture as you see. Your piece could still be chromed in the modern era. It is hard to tell from pics. If the whole piece were silvered, I'd guess early 20th, but you never know. Still, very well made. I'm hoping to add a stag-hilted hanger like the last one on the site you posted to my collection some day. Many of these early examples went to sea due to their compact nature and robust form.(i.e. Think "pirate"
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Hi M Eley,
So this is a German hunting knife afterall. I wonder if this would fall in the Jagdmesser catagory then? Looking at it would seem to make a good skinning knife. I like German hunting implemants and wanted a Hirschfanger as well but the price always kept me at arms length ![]() |
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Actually, the Germans didn't have exclusive rights to the "rough-hewn stag hilt look" on swords and hangers. I have seen similar hilts on many Scottish pieces, as well as some colonial American. It was a matter of taste and perhaps aided in allowing a good grip for the hunter while butchering (that could get the knife quite gory and slippery). Your knife's hilt does appear to have some aging to it, but the blade has a more modern appearance. Hard to tell. I'd guess at oldest, it dates to late 19th century, well after the period where the Germans were referred to as Hessians. I'm with you on wanting a nice old hanger. Perhaps some day-
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Hi M Eley,
thanks for all of your help with this knife. Im really very foind of it. I persoanlly think its 1920's or 30's......thats just my guess based on the chroming/nickeling/silvering. Unfortunatly in the pics the light black stains/pittin(not sure what to call it) dont show up ![]() ![]() Mark.... |
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