Magnetic stand for weapons

Luc LEFEBVRE · 3rd January 2007, 11:29 PM

I have design this magnetic stand.
Round heavy base (8mm height) , adjustable in height and rotation.
It can support a heavy weapon with 1 magnet, or a VERY heavy with 2 magnets, even sometimes with the scabbard.
Anybody else has this kind of idea ?
Luc

Andrew · 3rd January 2007, 11:59 PM

That's great, Luc!

I wonder if small, powerful magnets, covered in suede or some other soft material, could be mounted on a wall to attach weapons to?

Bill M · 4th January 2007, 12:50 AM

Very nice stand, Luc.

Here is my attempt with magnest.

These Moro weapons are held in place by 1.5 inch long x 1 inch wide x 1/4 in thick neodymium magnets behind the cloth. I sawed a slot in a piece of oak board, screwed the board to the wall, inserted the magnets and then put the cloth to hide the board and additionally protect the blades.

If you use neodymium magnets, be VERY careful. Unbelievably powerful. I got these on eBay from a company called "Rattlesnake." Well named. Two magnets will attract each other violently.

Not so dangerous just holding the steel blade but they hold it very well and the cloth keeps them from scratching the blades.

Dajak · 4th January 2007, 02:38 AM

Hi nice idea whit the magnets

regards, ben

wolviex · 4th January 2007, 09:04 AM

LUC! Great Idea, I would like to have someting like that! Is is available somewhere? If you cannot mention dealer and the price here, please send me PM or email: wolviex@poczta.onet.pl
Many thanks in advance!

Lew · 4th January 2007, 04:15 PM

Here is where I buy the ones I use to mount on the wall.

http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?cat=86

Lew

Emanuel · 4th January 2007, 05:36 PM

Hello,

This is a fantastic device, I'll certainly give it a try. What do you do with the scabbards though? In many, if not most, they're works of art in their own right. How to reconcile both the sword ans its scabbard on a presentation armature? Bill, I see that some of the scabbards are included in the glass case of your exhibit, but what do you do with the rest of them?
Perhaps some cloth wound around the scabbard and held to the magnet with a metal piece/washer could do the trick?

Regards,
Emanuel

katana · 4th January 2007, 09:10 PM

Interesting that this thread came up. I have been working on the idea of making wall brackets out of clear perspex/acrylic with neodymium magnets embedded.Basically a clear plastic rod is fixed to a bracket (to fix to the wall) at the end of the rod is attached the magnet and a felt protective piece. The rod could be 4-8 " depending on the thickness. Two would be needed to mount a sword horizontally. Once the sword is 'magnetically stuck' the only visible part of the bracket would be the clear plastic. The added bonus is ....because the bracket 'base' is clear....the surface of the wall will show through ...helping to hide it.

The idea was to create the illusion the sword was 'floating' next to the wall.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 4th January 2007, 10:36 PM

Here some pics I have made recently with scabbards.
On the photo with knives in the scabbard, I use the magnetic stand.
Luc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manolo

Hello,

This is a fantastic device, I'll certainly give it a try. What do you do with the scabbards though? In many, if not most, they're works of art in their own right. How to reconcile both the sword ans its scabbard on a presentation armature? Bill, I see that some of the scabbards are included in the glass case of your exhibit, but what do you do with the rest of them?
Perhaps some cloth wound around the scabbard and held to the magnet with a metal piece/washer could do the trick?

Regards,
Emanuel

katana · 4th January 2007, 11:12 PM

Luc....they look excellent.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 4th January 2007, 11:43 PM

Your system with plexiglas seems to be a good idea to hang on the wall.
Just try it and show us.
Luc

Luc LEFEBVRE · 4th January 2007, 11:46 PM

Nice wall Bill with good light.
In fact I've hurt myself with the magnets 2 or 3 time, my fingers remember this moment...
Luc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

Very nice stand, Luc.

Here is my attempt with magnest.

These Moro weapons are held in place by 1.5 inch long x 1 inch wide x 1/4 in thick neodymium magnets behind the cloth. I sawed a slot in a piece of oak board, screwed the board to the wall, inserted the magnets and then put the cloth to hide the board and additionally protect the blades.

If you use neodymium magnets, be VERY careful. Unbelievably powerful. I got these on eBay from a company called "Rattlesnake." Well named. Two magnets will attract each other violently.

Not so dangerous just holding the steel blade but they hold it very well and the cloth keeps them from scratching the blades.

Bill M · 5th January 2007, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luc LEFEBVRE

Nice wall Bill with good light.
In fact I've hurt myself with the magnets 2 or 3 time, my fingers remember this moment...
Luc

Thanks Luc,

I have had 1 inch square magnets snap together with enough force to give me blood blisters. The bigger ones can actually break bones. It is unreal how powerfully they attract each other.

A six inch diameter by two inch thick can hold up 1175 POUNDS of iron and they are much more powerful attracting another magnet. The seller says this about a 6" x 2" magnet.

"This is an EXTREMELY Powerful Magnet! The end user MUST USE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS when unpacking and using this magnet. Remove all metal objects within a 5 foot radius before unpacking. Magnets of this size and strength can pull metals objects to them when brought too close. Two magnets of this size will fly together with great force and can break bones."

I am very careful when using 1" x 1.5" magnets, but they sure hold a sword well. They will each lift about 55 pounds of steel.

Emanuel · 5th January 2007, 03:31 AM

If these magnets are so strong, then can they attract the blade through the wood (or whatever) of the scabbard? Furthermore, is it difficult to separate the blades from the magnets?

Luc, In the picture where the scabbard is alone on the stand, how is it held? Is there a bracket around it?

Thanks all for these examples, they're a great way to present weapons...and anything else for that matter.

Emanuel

Bill M · 5th January 2007, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manolo

If these magnets are so strong, then can they attract the blade through the wood (or whatever) of the scabbard? Furthermore, is it difficult to separate the blades from the magnets?
Emanuel

They would easily attract the blade through the scabbard. I have over 1/4" of wood between my blades and the magnets, and a piece of thick cloth. I just like to see the blades and many Moro swords have lost their scabbards.

The magnet is difficult to remove from the sword blade if it is directly in contact.

Spunjer · 17th April 2007, 02:46 PM

will these magnets leave marks on the blade? how would one prevent that?

Bill M · 17th April 2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunjer

will these magnets leave marks on the blade? how would one prevent that?

I don't think that the magnets will leave marks on the blades. However I have a piece of thin wood between the blade and the magnet. The problem is that the magnets are very powerful, very slick surface and difficult to attach to the wall or backdrop.

I am going to try some epoxy to hold the magnets to a board and then just use a thick cloth to go between them and the blades. The thickness of the wood weakens the magnetic attraction and am concerned they might not hold well enough.

While the magnets are powerful, the distance between is a large factor.

I stress again that these magnets are very powerful and dangerous -- particularly to each other -- less so to steel or iron. Two magnets will bite you! I have blood blisters to prove it! They are also brittle.

Rick · 17th April 2007, 05:40 PM

In the interest of recycling (and being a cheapskate

) I'd like to mention that the electric toothbrush heads that we routinely discard every month or so have incredibly strong magnets inside of them.

josh stout · 17th April 2007, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

In the interest of recycling (and being a cheapskate

) I'd like to mention that the electric toothbrush heads that we routinely discard every month or so have incredibly strong magnets inside of them.

Old hard drives also have rare earth magnets in them. The magnets also have the advantage of being built into their mounting brackets so they can be screwed into whatever you want to hold them. I use a hard drive magnet to clean up iron filings.
Josh

Spunjer · 17th April 2007, 08:17 PM

these rare earth magnets, neodymium, do they lose their magnetic hold over time? my concern is, if one uses these magnets as some sort of sword hanger on the wall and nothing else (no hooks to support), that eventually gravity takes over and well, i'll have my own version of king arthur's sword on the floor...

Luc LEFEBVRE · 17th April 2007, 10:35 PM

Hi Josh,
At the beginning, I used HDD magnets, they are strong enough, but fragile.
So I buy strong and thick magnets and they don't lose their magnetic power.
Luc

fearn · 18th April 2007, 02:27 AM

Hey Luc,

Neat idea, and a great way to magnetize a blade. Didn't we have a thread on that not very long ago?

Here's the Wikipedia article on neodymium magnets on neodymium magnets (just found googling, not saying it's correct).

Neodymium magnets lose strength when exposed to temperatures greater than 80 degrees Celsius, rather than over time. They are also fairly fragile. While they are wonderful fun to play with, but they can be a nuisance and/or a health hazard. For instance, you definitely DO NOT want to get your hand caught between two magnets that can each hold 100 kg, as they will come together with 200 kg worth of force and crush your hand between them. Nor do you want it to mess up your pacemaker, if you have one. Or your credit cards or hard drives.

Otherwise, have fun! if you've got a decent stand, I think a neodymium magnet would be a great way to hold a sword.

F

Luc LEFEBVRE · 18th April 2007, 09:36 PM

No problem it works really good.
And I'm still alive with my 10 fingers and a good heart !
;-)
Here a picture of a wall at home, you can see some magnetic stands.
Luc

Tim Simmons · 18th April 2007, 09:52 PM

Luc, the knives you show here with their scabbards are very nice to see. I simply adore the fur scabbard, they are just so perfect.

Luc LEFEBVRE · 18th April 2007, 10:16 PM

If you like knive with scabbard, here some.
Luc

Emanuel · 11th January 2010, 10:01 PM

Finally got around to trying these magnets, they work great!

Rikkn · 12th January 2010, 01:18 AM

Great idea !! I can mount my bayonet collection with magnets too !!

Bill M · 12th January 2010, 04:47 PM

I want to stress again that these magnets are dangerous. I have blood blisters from two of the smaller type snapping together and catching part of my finger! These were an inch in diameter. You will not believe how fast they can come together.

I also suggest that a magnet strong enough to hold a sword can attract the sword blade quickly and cause the blade to cut you. And without some kind of padding, cloth or thin wood, they can scratch fine, polished blades.

With a few safety precautions these work very well, but always be careful. I found out the hard way!

3rd January 2007, 11:29 PM	#1
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Magnetic stand for weapons I have design this magnetic stand. Round heavy base (8mm height) , adjustable in height and rotation. It can support a heavy weapon with 1 magnet, or a VERY heavy with 2 magnets, even sometimes with the scabbard. Anybody else has this kind of idea ? Luc Attached Images

4th January 2007, 12:50 AM	#3
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Very nice stand, Luc. Here is my attempt with magnest. These Moro weapons are held in place by 1.5 inch long x 1 inch wide x 1/4 in thick neodymium magnets behind the cloth. I sawed a slot in a piece of oak board, screwed the board to the wall, inserted the magnets and then put the cloth to hide the board and additionally protect the blades. If you use neodymium magnets, be VERY careful. Unbelievably powerful. I got these on eBay from a company called "Rattlesnake." Well named. Two magnets will attract each other violently. Not so dangerous just holding the steel blade but they hold it very well and the cloth keeps them from scratching the blades. Attached Images

4th January 2007, 09:10 PM	#8
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Interesting that this thread came up. I have been working on the idea of making wall brackets out of clear perspex/acrylic with neodymium magnets embedded.Basically a clear plastic rod is fixed to a bracket (to fix to the wall) at the end of the rod is attached the magnet and a felt protective piece. The rod could be 4-8 " depending on the thickness. Two would be needed to mount a sword horizontally. Once the sword is 'magnetically stuck' the only visible part of the bracket would be the clear plastic. The added bonus is ....because the bracket 'base' is clear....the surface of the wall will show through ...helping to hide it. The idea was to create the illusion the sword was 'floating' next to the wall. Attached Images Last edited by katana; 4th January 2007 at 11:16 PM.

17th April 2007, 05:40 PM	#18
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	While We're On The Subject In the interest of recycling (and being a cheapskate ) I'd like to mention that the electric toothbrush heads that we routinely discard every month or so have incredibly strong magnets inside of them.

18th April 2007, 09:36 PM	#23
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	No problem it works really good. And I'm still alive with my 10 fingers and a good heart ! ;-) Here a picture of a wall at home, you can see some magnetic stands. Luc Attached Images

3rd January 2007, 11:59 PM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	That's great, Luc! I wonder if small, powerful magnets, covered in suede or some other soft material, could be mounted on a wall to attach weapons to?

4th January 2007, 02:38 AM	#4
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi nice idea whit the magnets regards, ben

4th January 2007, 09:04 AM	#5
wolviex Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 418	LUC! Great Idea, I would like to have someting like that! Is is available somewhere? If you cannot mention dealer and the price here, please send me PM or email: wolviex@poczta.onet.pl Many thanks in advance!

4th January 2007, 04:15 PM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Here is where I buy the ones I use to mount on the wall. http://www.kjmagnetics.com/categories.asp?cat=86 Lew

4th January 2007, 05:36 PM	#7
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hello, This is a fantastic device, I'll certainly give it a try. What do you do with the scabbards though? In many, if not most, they're works of art in their own right. How to reconcile both the sword ans its scabbard on a presentation armature? Bill, I see that some of the scabbards are included in the glass case of your exhibit, but what do you do with the rest of them? Perhaps some cloth wound around the scabbard and held to the magnet with a metal piece/washer could do the trick? Regards, Emanuel

4th January 2007, 11:12 PM	#10
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Luc....they look excellent.

4th January 2007, 11:43 PM	#11
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Your system with plexiglas seems to be a good idea to hang on the wall. Just try it and show us. Luc

5th January 2007, 03:31 AM	#14
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	If these magnets are so strong, then can they attract the blade through the wood (or whatever) of the scabbard? Furthermore, is it difficult to separate the blades from the magnets? Luc, In the picture where the scabbard is alone on the stand, how is it held? Is there a bracket around it? Thanks all for these examples, they're a great way to present weapons...and anything else for that matter. Emanuel

17th April 2007, 02:46 PM	#16
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	will these magnets leave marks on the blade? how would one prevent that?

17th April 2007, 08:17 PM	#20
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	these rare earth magnets, neodymium, do they lose their magnetic hold over time? my concern is, if one uses these magnets as some sort of sword hanger on the wall and nothing else (no hooks to support), that eventually gravity takes over and well, i'll have my own version of king arthur's sword on the floor...

17th April 2007, 10:35 PM	#21
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Hi Josh, At the beginning, I used HDD magnets, they are strong enough, but fragile. So I buy strong and thick magnets and they don't lose their magnetic power. Luc

18th April 2007, 02:27 AM	#22
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hey Luc, Neat idea, and a great way to magnetize a blade. Didn't we have a thread on that not very long ago? Here's the Wikipedia article on neodymium magnets on neodymium magnets (just found googling, not saying it's correct). Neodymium magnets lose strength when exposed to temperatures greater than 80 degrees Celsius, rather than over time. They are also fairly fragile. While they are wonderful fun to play with, but they can be a nuisance and/or a health hazard. For instance, you definitely DO NOT want to get your hand caught between two magnets that can each hold 100 kg, as they will come together with 200 kg worth of force and crush your hand between them. Nor do you want it to mess up your pacemaker, if you have one. Or your credit cards or hard drives. Otherwise, have fun! if you've got a decent stand, I think a neodymium magnet would be a great way to hold a sword. F

18th April 2007, 09:52 PM	#24
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Luc, the knives you show here with their scabbards are very nice to see. I simply adore the fur scabbard, they are just so perfect.

18th April 2007, 10:16 PM	#25
Luc LEFEBVRE Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: France Posts: 472	Scabbards If you like knive with scabbard, here some. Luc Attached Images

11th January 2010, 10:01 PM	#26
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Finally got around to trying these magnets, they work great! Attached Images

12th January 2010, 01:18 AM	#27
Rikkn Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ormond by the Sea, Fl Posts: 50	Great idea !! I can mount my bayonet collection with magnets too !!

12th January 2010, 04:47 PM	#28
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	I want to stress again that these magnets are dangerous. I have blood blisters from two of the smaller type snapping together and catching part of my finger! These were an inch in diameter. You will not believe how fast they can come together. I also suggest that a magnet strong enough to hold a sword can attract the sword blade quickly and cause the blade to cut you. And without some kind of padding, cloth or thin wood, they can scratch fine, polished blades. With a few safety precautions these work very well, but always be careful. I found out the hard way!