Happy Goloky

kronckew · 20th October 2007, 01:33 AM

just acquired this one from e-pray:

more pictures up on ebay until it arrives here.

item listed as OLD SWORD/DAGGER - VIKING STYLE HANDLE - UNKNOWN AGE Item number: 290170266566

auction house acquisition from a house clearance.

i do love some of the descriptions on ebay. this one is 14in. blade, appears to be a golok to me but with that viking handle, all sorts of ideas spring to mind

i am glad there is still the occasional sleeper on ebay....

anyway, they got the unknown age bit correct. will be interested in seeing what the scabbard fittings are made of, looks like a bit of tidying up to keep me busy for a day or so. looks like there may be a small crack in the grip at the blade junction to stabilize.

Robert · 20th October 2007, 02:47 AM

Yup, Looks like a golok to me. Wonder how those pesky Vikings got ahold of it?

Fittings look steel to me. I have one that came with the fittings painted with gold paint. Had to remove every one of them to get it off. They had also painted the scabbard with house paint. You have a real nice find. If I had to guess I'd say early to mid 20th century. I'm sure that someone that knows a lot more about these can give you a better idea on its age.

Robert

mohd · 20th October 2007, 02:53 AM

kronckew

Is it a Sumateran Golok? I have a new one with that sort of blade shape but different style of handle and it was made in Kerinci (i.e. read kerinchee), Sumatera.

CourseEight · 20th October 2007, 04:18 PM

Can't add any info, but love the post title!

kronckew · 2nd December 2007, 10:02 PM

jut thought i'd post a pic of it after cleanup & a bit of oiling.

Ferguson · 3rd December 2007, 02:05 AM

Hi Kronck,
I got one on ebay a couple of weeks ago that's almost identical. The difference is the scabbard throat. Mine has a little extension. The wood at first looked like very nicely figured wood, until I noticed that it was artfully stained in stripes.

It was ok for what I paid.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=016

Steve

kronckew · 3rd December 2007, 08:16 AM

howdy steve;

they look like brothers,

mine had a damaged throat, appears repaired. i may have to rebuild the extension. my wood also was also figured in some human applied black stain. the wood grip has less 'stripes, grouped in threes, and the mouth is not as defined, but the eyes and ears are. the clip belt/sash device on mine turned out to be metal under a lot of grime & needed reattaching, likely a replacement, and all needed a good clean. scabbard was very dry so i soaked it in teak oil overnite cleaned off the few areas of active rust on the chape, bands and blade with steel wool, capillaried some super glue into a grip crack & gave it & the scabbard a few coats of olive oil & some hand rubbing. blade got the scented mineral oil treatment. it also is stamped on the left side, but i can't quite make it out...

with the exchange rate looks like you got the better deal

Robert · 3rd December 2007, 07:45 PM

Hi Kronckew,
Is it just me or does the clip belt/sash device on yours look like it is made from the handle end of a fork or spoon? Could you post a closer picture of that area?

Robert

kronckew · 4th December 2007, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Coleman

Hi Kronckew,
Is it just me or does the clip belt/sash device on yours look like it is made from the handle end of a fork or spoon? Could you post a closer picture of that area?

Robert

looks like one to me too!

someone got creative.

Jim McDougall · 4th December 2007, 04:58 AM

What would the TST (?) mark stamped in the blade on Fergusons example signify? also there is a small mark on the lower hilt near the blade that looks like a calligraphic 'e'.....is that an initial?

Robert · 4th December 2007, 06:18 AM

I'm not sure what the markings mean for sure. The blade on mine has markings too but I can't get a good picture of them. I always figured that they might be stampings from leaf spring manufactures and that is what the blades were made from around WWII. Here are a few pics of the one I have to add to the collection of this style hilt.

The only difference is mine has eyes of bone and horn and a brass ring in the tigers mouth. I just noticed that the hilt on mine is pined in place where the others don't seem to be.

kronckew · 4th December 2007, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

What would the TST (?) mark stamped in the blade on Fergusons example signify? also there is a small mark on the lower hilt near the blade that looks like a calligraphic 'e'.....is that an initial?

the way it's written it looks like the numeral '3'

of similar shape:
the arabic letter 'ayn is the mirror image, as is the arabian numeral for 4.

sipakatuo · 5th December 2007, 11:47 AM

It is more like Golok Betawi (Batavia in the old days) to me. I have similar Golok like yours with the same kind of Handle made of Tandok. I will post it later. Ciao.

sipakatuo · 5th December 2007, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

What would the TST (?) mark stamped in the blade on Fergusons example signify? also there is a small mark on the lower hilt near the blade that looks like a calligraphic 'e'.....is that an initial?

TBT means Tjibatu. Tjibatu is a small village in Sukabumi, West Java, Indonesia that is very well known in producing Golok since long time ago. It is quite common to see a golok that has a TBT stamped on it. Haji As'ari is one pande golok who is still existing till today.

Perajin Golok Pusaka Cibatu- Sukabumi
Haji Aas As'ari
Jl. Siliwangi III Gr. H Syarifudin No.313
RT 03/01 Cibatu-Cisaat, Sukabumi
Telp: (0266) 217791

sipakatuo · 7th December 2007, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

just acquired this one from e-pray:

more pictures up on ebay until it arrives here.

item listed as OLD SWORD/DAGGER - VIKING STYLE HANDLE - UNKNOWN AGE Item number: 290170266566

auction house acquisition from a house clearance.

i do love some of the descriptions on ebay. this one is 14in. blade, appears to be a golok to me but with that viking handle, all sorts of ideas spring to mind

i am glad there is still the occasional sleeper on ebay....

anyway, they got the unknown age bit correct. will be interested in seeing what the scabbard fittings are made of, looks like a bit of tidying up to keep me busy for a day or so. looks like there may be a small crack in the grip at the blade junction to stabilize.

Pls look at below pictures.

Ferguson · 7th December 2007, 11:45 AM

Thank you Sipakatuo. Excellent information.
Steve

20th October 2007, 01:33 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	Happy Goloky just acquired this one from e-pray: more pictures up on ebay until it arrives here. item listed as OLD SWORD/DAGGER - VIKING STYLE HANDLE - UNKNOWN AGE Item number: 290170266566 auction house acquisition from a house clearance. i do love some of the descriptions on ebay. this one is 14in. blade, appears to be a golok to me but with that viking handle, all sorts of ideas spring to mind i am glad there is still the occasional sleeper on ebay.... anyway, they got the unknown age bit correct. will be interested in seeing what the scabbard fittings are made of, looks like a bit of tidying up to keep me busy for a day or so. looks like there may be a small crack in the grip at the blade junction to stabilize.

20th October 2007, 02:53 AM	#3
mohd Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 41	Origin kronckew Is it a Sumateran Golok? I have a new one with that sort of blade shape but different style of handle and it was made in Kerinci (i.e. read kerinchee), Sumatera.

3rd December 2007, 02:05 AM	#6
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Hi Kronck, I got one on ebay a couple of weeks ago that's almost identical. The difference is the scabbard throat. Mine has a little extension. The wood at first looked like very nicely figured wood, until I noticed that it was artfully stained in stripes. It was ok for what I paid. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=016 Steve Attached Images

4th December 2007, 06:18 AM	#11
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I'm not sure what the markings mean for sure. The blade on mine has markings too but I can't get a good picture of them. I always figured that they might be stampings from leaf spring manufactures and that is what the blades were made from around WWII. Here are a few pics of the one I have to add to the collection of this style hilt. The only difference is mine has eyes of bone and horn and a brass ring in the tigers mouth. I just noticed that the hilt on mine is pined in place where the others don't seem to be. Attached Images

20th October 2007, 02:47 AM	#2
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Yup, Looks like a golok to me. Wonder how those pesky Vikings got ahold of it? Fittings look steel to me. I have one that came with the fittings painted with gold paint. Had to remove every one of them to get it off. They had also painted the scabbard with house paint. You have a real nice find. If I had to guess I'd say early to mid 20th century. I'm sure that someone that knows a lot more about these can give you a better idea on its age. Robert

20th October 2007, 04:18 PM	#4
CourseEight Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Coral Springs, FL Posts: 222	Can't add any info, but love the post title!

2nd December 2007, 10:02 PM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	jut thought i'd post a pic of it after cleanup & a bit of oiling.

3rd December 2007, 08:16 AM	#7
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	howdy steve; they look like brothers, mine had a damaged throat, appears repaired. i may have to rebuild the extension. my wood also was also figured in some human applied black stain. the wood grip has less 'stripes, grouped in threes, and the mouth is not as defined, but the eyes and ears are. the clip belt/sash device on mine turned out to be metal under a lot of grime & needed reattaching, likely a replacement, and all needed a good clean. scabbard was very dry so i soaked it in teak oil overnite cleaned off the few areas of active rust on the chape, bands and blade with steel wool, capillaried some super glue into a grip crack & gave it & the scabbard a few coats of olive oil & some hand rubbing. blade got the scented mineral oil treatment. it also is stamped on the left side, but i can't quite make it out... with the exchange rate looks like you got the better deal

3rd December 2007, 07:45 PM	#8
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hi Kronckew, Is it just me or does the clip belt/sash device on yours look like it is made from the handle end of a fork or spoon? Could you post a closer picture of that area? Robert

4th December 2007, 04:58 AM	#10
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,952	What would the TST (?) mark stamped in the blade on Fergusons example signify? also there is a small mark on the lower hilt near the blade that looks like a calligraphic 'e'.....is that an initial?

5th December 2007, 11:47 AM	#13
sipakatuo Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 59	It is more like Golok Betawi (Batavia in the old days) to me. I have similar Golok like yours with the same kind of Handle made of Tandok. I will post it later. Ciao.

7th December 2007, 11:45 AM	#16
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Thank you Sipakatuo. Excellent information. Steve